and yet on other networks you had people saying january 6th was much to do about nothing and well these police officers were just actors? >> yeah, man, joe, i was i don't think i have ever seen anything like it in terms of the most visceral reaction to it. never seen anything like it, and i never felt more -- i always respect people like that. i felt grateful and humbled by their sacrifice, and kind of in awe of what they understood.