happen at the same time. so i think -- i think they do know how to do this and they've shown they're quite good at it. so i'm not writing off this deal because of the this new threat from the moderates. i anticipate there'll probably be threats from the progressives as well. but let's see how it works out. because, again, pelosi usually finds a way to get the votes. >> regardless of where the threats come from, let's look at the situation right now, john heileman. after six months, seven months, eight months of so many people telling joe biden to ignore the republicans, you're never going to get a deal with republicans, stop talking about bipartisan, it will never happen, basically saying you're a fool, you're being suck erred into this, it's lucy with the football. we find ourselves now in a position where joe biden has