biden did very well. democrats did really well if georgia, with jon ossoff, raphael warnock, running on the idea of giving money to people. a simple lunch bucket kind of message. and democrats need to think about still, voters who voted for barack obama and defected to donald trump, i think because democrats shifted their position on immigration and some other cultural issues further to the left. and that's probably a course correction democrats want to make. they want to go back to some of those rural white, probably less religious, lower-income voters, who have voted for democrats in the past and can vote for democrats again, but clearly aren't persuaded, just by the critique of donald trump. >> so, matthew, i was going to let willie ask the next question, but i have two people at the desk, shaking their heads furiously, saying, go back to the center. no! no! again, i say, no! you brought up a great point. barack obama was in ezra klein's