you can let life interrupt you a little bit and you can come back. i thought her message was very clear, very poignant and a great example in many ways. >> you know, it is -- we just don't talk about mental health enough in this country and we haven't for a long time. not just in this country, but across the world. it's something that people have started to talk to. i think the pandemic has brought us a lot closer to addressing it more straightforward and head-on, which we've been trying to do on this show. and i know other shows have been trying to do it as with pel. we just assume -- fans just assume. somebody decides they want to go into a sport and they make a lot of money from that sport, they win a lot of trophies, they get a lot of fame. they're superstars. and so many people are like, you owe it to me to do the press conference. you owe it to me for this, owe