and the needle is not moving at all. so although the numbers, when you look at them in their absolute terms and obviously the rage is going to give us some real deep insight, that say great name, by the way, that, to me, that they haven't moved say bit kerngs concerning to me. >> let's go through the numbers and talk about the majority wanting him to be removed, but also those other questions that were asked about obstruction and the other areas on -- that really took apart the president's performance in this ukraine scandal. what jumps out at you? >> sure. let me throw an object, maybe a cup or something first on the table to live up to "the rage" here. what don nip was sayiny is sayi this fox news poll, this is the worst poll on impeachment i've seen for trump in some time. but that said, take a look at the average of all polls out there. if you look at that right now,