dramatically change the opinion much testimony and we have the of the american people, i think summary transcript of the call, which ironically everybody seems my colleagues will respond. to agree on, i do think house going back to the nixon time, at democrats have a big challenge the beginning of the because the challenge before them as they open these hearings proceedings, people were pretty dug in. it was the open hearings that is not just to be able to changed the american public's present to the american people that the president is kind of a mind, that then changed elected bad guy once in a while, which i think a lot of americans accept even people that voted for republicans' minds. you could say people are much trump, or not that he might have more dug in and not the done something unseemly or pervasive coverage that took place in the watergate process. skirted ethical lines, they have to make the case with these but you have to hope and believe hearings and with this that at the end of the day, our information that the president country, our processes, the deserves to be removed from office. i think sometimes this gets hard constitution will get us through this as it has in the past. for democrats because to them the fact that the president in >> senator, it is john heilemann and i want to keep going on the same topic. their view has done things that the question people have is not are criminal or unconstitutional so much and those are is so plain that they don't realize the kind of explaining differences between the watergate period now and the one that it takes to convince a you mentioned and the most basic facts of the case that democrats skeptical part of the public in the house are laying out that is important that the case against president trump are they're making is correct. already known at this point. and we've seen republicans and so though it is true that the american people might be suffer from the same sort of thing when president obama was moved and public opinion could in office, and so for democrats, shift by the human element of