>> so, jim, what doesn't make sense to me, it is political malpractice to push for something like this that is going -- again, it's going to devastate democratic support in the general election when you have the opportunity of saying, you know what? i'm really proud of what barack obama did, i'm really proud that he fought the republicans. i'm really proud that he passed obamacare. and i've been really mad that donald trump has done everything that donald trump could do to take away those guarantees. it upsets me that donald trump's republican party works around the clock to strip us of those preexisting protections that barack obama fought for. i'm really upset that donald trump has been gutting obamacare. what we need to do is we need mend obamacare, we need to defend obamacare, we don't need to end obamacare. that is an 80 -- maybe an 80% issue in the democratic party. it also makes the most sense