kavanaugh hearings really galvanized and brought republicans home and how much is that a risk for democrats this campaign cycle? >> i don't think it's that much of a worry a year out. it don't see many americans right now -- i spent a lot of the week talking to people in virginia, like legislative elections. things that happen a year, year and a half ago that's not affecting how people are voting for their local congress person, it's not something that's really necessarily on their minds right now. i don't think impeachment ends up being like an albatross or a millstone around the neck of democrats who actually vote for it. but i do think this, this is important about this top four field and how they play out. i've always said this. people underestimate how good joe biden is at retail politics. he may stumble on the stage, he may seem frustrating to those of us sort of in the chattering class here. but you can go out and talk to people in the midwest, talk to people in carolina, and georgia,