and that's a huge source of frustration. because they've been able to pretty adeptly been able to control what gets out and what doesn't get out for at least in a public setting from people of who left. and a lot of that is done through fee of. on axios hbo last week, mitt romney was talking about how a lot of people don't speak out, how almost nobody in the senate speaks out because they do worry that they're going to get primaried. they worry that it could end up costing conservatives any control in governance. that's been a powerful motivator to keep republicans silent. that's where this new ship, we don't know what will happen with impeachment proceedings or what will happen in terms of the trial in the senate, but we do know that for the first time there's a lot of stuff getting aired publicly that wasn't before. and so this really is a different chapter. >> and, eugene, as jim points out, this is first hand stuff in the is somebody who's in the room with donald trump and it adds to this growing collection of documents that we have now about how president trump runs his white house, how he makes