last week that follows up on what mika's been saying for some time, that he really is working on having ivanka trump follow him in the white house at some point, whether in '24 or the 2020 election, even though events are moving far too rapidly for that. it is fascinating what nancy says, because people close to him have said for sometime, if he could get out he would. >> you know, there are a lot of contradictory settlements of donald trump's mentality. first of all, he has an oversized view of himself and ivanka trump. others concede to that. he's worried about the impeachment label on him in terms of his historical significance. so on the one hand i could understand the thought experiment. on the other hand i'm thinking about his ego, his massive ego. but then the last point i'm worried about, joe, is this. no matter what happens and how it is the case that trump sought of office, whether he's voted