fool's arir rond in the complicated america 2019. that's a pretty remarkable number given how intrinsically divided we are and how tribal we've become. one question i have for you as a former practitioner of this, let's stipulate that the house impeaches the president just for hypothetical. the house impeeves the president, it goes over to the senate. you need 22 senators to break with the trump world. i keep saying the trump base, it's not the republican base, think that's an important distinction. what do you think the number is, the polling number is for those 20 or 22 senators to break? what's their metric if they're ignoring their duty and they're looking solely at their own political survival, what do you think the threshold number is? >> i think it's all especially for republicans that are running in the primary in 2020 or in