ukrainians because obviously vladimir putin continues his threats of further invasion after invading their country already. but explain how the president continued to hold up aid to ukraine at the same time eight times he was pressuring the ukrainian president to interfere in america's political process. >> just a few seconds of background here. after ukraine was invaded first in cry mimea, the government lod at it and decided they weren't going to supply aid, so they sanctioned russia. this administration, correctly after some consideration, i would argue, provided defensive arms. and a chunk of them went to ukraine early on. then there were repeated efforts because the russians keep amping it up, not other they not