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>> we're in the second half of 2010. it's like 1993. i'm a little behind but it's the second half of some year. look where we are. look where we are. >> chicago! i had to remember. >> it's exciting. john boehner, my gosh. john boehner getting hammered by the president. >> or -- okay, sure, yes, by the president. >> some people, you know, mika, yesterday, yesterday, i simply reported on what scores of republicans have been telling us on capitol hill. i think i made it very clear i don't know what john boehner's work habits are. i don't know what his -- >> you're not there with him every day. >> not only am i not there with him every day, i never was. even when i was in congress, john boehner did it different things than me. i worked. he went to bars. i kid. i'm joking! you know, john boehner, it's like -- it's like -- kids, sit down and get some popcorn. i'll tell you what it's like on capitol hill. no, seriously. it's like a very small campus, right? so everybody knows everybody's work habits, they know their business, and so that's why getting all of this pushback on something that everybody on capitol hill knows about john boehner, he's not exactly the hardest worker in the world. he's a guy that likes golf and he's a guy that likes you know, socializing. >> he is outside a lot. >> he has a tan. he has that going for him. i don't know what shade of orange that is. i don't think it's a spray-on type. look at eric cantor, he is pale. look at pence. he works! those are fluorescent lights on those guys. look at me. i work. it's all spray-on. it's all natural. i'm greek like charlie crist. i just want to say that's fine when you're a back bencher, not working that hard. when you run, the republican party on capitol hill and they want to take over the majority, it becomes an issue. >> well, did you have -- it's one now. all right. >> it is on the record what has been saying off the record the past two years. let's talk to our friends in new york city. the great willie geist. >> oh, willie! we're so proud of you, willie! >> by the way, willie, i think you and i should just clear the air that we don't really care whether people work hard or not, go out, party. i judge not that you be not judged. i did not judge boehner. we are just reporters, willie, that's what we do. >> i don't have to say that outloud. i lead by my actions not working hard. everybody knows that about me. >> harold ford is with us and also is sam stein. we will get to harold in a second. he is going to have three points to say about john boehner's work ethics. >> right. >> but, sam, let me first go to you. this is the thing that is so funny about washington, d.c. you state a fact that is obvious that nobody will state on the political record and then everybody is shocked that you state what everybody says when the cameras are turned off and it happens all the time. in '98 when we conservatives were ready to get rid of newt gingrich, he's the worst guy! we hate him! he's got to go! then you say, i think newt gingrich may need to leave. we're shocked! why would you say such a thing? in 2006, george w. bush, every republican that would come into a green room and say bush is killing, we are going to lose the majority. he is spending too much and horrible on katrina and this war is a mess. then if you say that on the air, they go crazy! how dare you say what everybody in washington is saying! now it's the same thing with boehner. a lot of republicans in washington, have you not heard, are concerned that john boehner, he wants to be the speaker of the house. doesn't have the work ethic or the focus to make republicans the majority party. >> well, it's more he's not the right figure head. in that interview that has now been made famous by barack obama, he talks about this being another 1776 revolution type year. he's not a revolutionary figure. he's a guy, you mentioned, he goes out, he doesn't have a great work ethic but he fund-raises for people. he spent money on golf outings. this is not thomas payne we're talking about. he raises money for other republicans and tries to build up the institutions but isn't known as the sharper thinker or the hardest worker on the hill. he serves a person but not the person you want the head of the party trying to barrel down the gates in an off-year election. >> again, sam, you talk to a lot of people up on the hill. i think republicans may tell me things they don't think other reporters. i was a member there. you hear these complaints from republicans, don't you? >> yeah. >> this guy is not the hardest worker. he is what my mother used to term a good-time charlie and that is not a negative term. he golfs, drinks, has a good time. there are a lot of people on capitol hill that do that and i don't judge any of them. i'm just reporting here. >> they like him because he is good at fund-raising. he does pass around money. he helps people out when it comes to election time. but, yeah, you're absolutely right. they don't think of him as the intellectual heavy weight of the party. eric cantor is really trying to make the party renewed with novel ideas and new institutions for re-election. boehner is not considered from people i talk to on the hill to be sort of the hard worker, grunt worker that you would want as a -- >> i think what is interesting it's not necessarily that interesting that sam is saying that. but it is apparently earth-shattering, no offense, sweetheart. he's adorable. that's okay. my point is when you say something or someone else in the republican party says something true, but critical, there is a reaction that is unhealthy and i think that is your overall point. let's get off boehner and talk about really what the party needs to do if it wants to be honest with itself. >> yeah. >> and productive. >> what's so funny in washington is this way and harold ford jr. knows washington is this way. in 2006, i would go on my show every night and say george bush is spending too much money, the debt is too high. he responded terribly to katrina. the war is a mess right now. and if we continue in this direction, republicans are going to lose the majority. i had so many weanies out there attacking me. how dare you attack george w. bush! and you're not a true conservative! while you have people on other shows go you're a great american. he's a great american. republicans are great americans. while rome was burning i was telling the crew people got angry at me, harold, but guess what? the second bush left town, they said you were right, joe, the second newt left town, they said you were right, joe. you know what? if republicans don't take the majority this year, they are going to say the same exact thing again. it seems washington never learns, harold. washington never learns. >> you know, it's easy when you're in that cocoon as you and i both remember to not only dismiss or find it easy to dismiss criticism but easier to ignore some of the structure of the criticism. i know you and i both know eric cantor and john boehner and paul ryan could take not only some advice from those in washington, particularly people who have been there like you and understand what voters and in different parts of the country -- i think mika nailed it. the real issue here is whether or not your substance will appeal to voters. we have a history of people leading democrats, republicans in the house and the senate who have representations for working hard and having a lot of charisma and not having a lot of charis charisma. the real test is your caucus is offering substantive alternatives or ideas. democrats have been criticized some of the last year and a half. republicans have faced their share of criticism. it's no secret. john boehner is a good guy but he's a darn good golfer, too. >> by the way -- >> they make more progress there and he will be judged by that, rightly so. >> haverled harold, that's a great point. i like john boehner. >> i don't think he likes you. >> it doesn't matter. john probably doesn't take it personally but, i mean, seriously, i don't know john boehner personally. i really don't. i don't know him personally. i just have reported, over the past 24 hours, what i've been hearing over the past 24 months and as harold says, john boehner is a good guy. he is. john boehner is one of the few guys in republican leadership that we didn't try to overthrow because he wasn't conservative enough. and i've never had a cross word with john. i know this may come as a surprise to people, but seriously the only thing i was doing was lending a voice to the frustration i've heard when cameras are turned off the past 24 months. now, harold, people will ask, why don't other republicans go out there and say that? maybe because the same reason democrats don't go out and say they think nancy pelosi is acting like a tyrant. which democrats say, off the record, all the time. >> terrific! >> the thing is you hear complaints like this. >> i know. i'm just kidding. >> one after another after another. republican sam steiner is fighting to take control of the house. newt gingrich, hard worker. if you're going to bend history, if you're going to pick up 40, 45 seats, it's a 24/7 job, is it not? >> absolutely right. harold hit it on the head. part of it being a hard worker. you know, i think john boehner brings to the table a lot of the institutional issues or the features that you want in a midterm election. he can raise money and motivate conservatives and give a pretty good speech but can he provide the policy platform that can recruit voters? that's an open question. i haven't seen that from his office and maybe the problem is not enough hard work but like you mentioned, newt gingrich was out there and putting out a contract with america. nancy pelosi for all of her flaws has done a marvelous job keeping the caucus together around ideas. if the republicans want to take back power they have to learn from those two figures, i think. >> let me quickly get a couple of news stories in here. house of representatives voted to approve a sweeping overhaul of the financial system. it passed yesterday with create and oversight council and restrict risky maneuvers that proponents say led to the 2008 financial crisis. fountain senate aproves the pressure it won't be until mid july since republicans say they would want to spend the fourth of july recess reviewing the final language or if you're john boehner -- anyhow. president obama wanted to sign the bill on july fourth. >> stop that. this is news. >> i'm sorry. is not republicans filibustered a bill to provide unemployment checks to millions of people. however, the measure is expected to pass once a replacement is in place for the late senator robert byrd. okay. so -- oh, after 17 hours of questioning and three days, supreme court nominee elena kagan wrapped up her testimony yesterday. was it enough after pressed on issues such as abortion and campaign finance? senator arlen specter of pennsylvania criticized kagan what he believed was unwillingness to engage in detailed conversation. >> we started off with a standards that you articulated at the university of chicago law school about substantive discussions and they say we haven't had them here and i'm inclined to agree with them. it would be my hope that we could find someplace between voting no and having some sort of substantive answers, but i don't know that it would be useful to pursue these questions any further. >> okay. confirmation hearings will continue today as the committee hears from outside witnesses for and against kagan's nomination. the vote expected later this month. >> she will fly through. >> yes. i don't know arlen specter was not satisfied. we did find out she had chinese food for christmas. >> that is important. >> did "rolling stone" article on general mcchrystal change the game? that is next in the poe lit tow playbook. the final four cities in the running to host the dnc convention. the men who loved the u.s. soccer people, coach bob bradley will be here, but, first, bill karins with a check on the forecast. >> good morning, everyone. hurricane alex made landfall last night and intesive intensified before it slammed into mexico as a strong category 2 storm. thankfully the storm made landfall in a relatively unpopulated area and barely brushed southern texas with strong winds. the real problem is the rain the next couple of days. also the oil forecast. cleanup still doesn't look good. we still have six-foot waves where the leak is occurring. the skimmer boats probably kept in harbor again today. sea should come down tomorrow where everything can hopefully return to what at least they call normal there nowadays. winds 29 miles per hour. you can see on the radar the storm is falling apart a little bit so we're almost done with alex and weaken into a tropical storm this morning. and it will be gone by tomorrow. forecast wise, it is absolutely gorgeous again today from boston to d.c. just like yesterday. for that matter, the ohio valley, the great lakes, the northern plains, it is just going to be a gorgeous thursday! and even tomorrow looks good for the busy travel day. the problem area, down along the gulf. leach moisture and thunderstorms from florida to new orleans. you're watching "morning joe" on this beautiful thursday, brewed by starbucks. ♪ when you are ready to roll with the changes ♪ ♪ oh ♪ [ jet engine roaring ] hey! 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"the washington post" living soldier gets medal of honor to a living soldier. the soldier whose name is not revealed ran through a wall of enemy fire in afghanistan valley in 2007 to push back taliban fighters who were close to overrunning his squad. the military says the actions saved the lives of at least a half a dozen men. >> amazing story. the boston glove the governor signed a painful budget for the spending year. the slash funding for services across the state including public education, dental care for the poor, and developmental services for toddlers. patrick said the pain is widespread in these difficult, economic times. the arizona daily star, the state's tourism industry is gearing up for public relations campaign after months of boycotts over its immigration law. the state is looking to convince people it's safe to visit arizona, that they won't be kidnapped, and they won't be forced to show identification at the risk of being deported. you know why this thing is so silly? is that a majority of states are rushing to pass the same kind of law. >> terrific. >> this is a law that 65, 70% of americans support, so stop picking on arizona. >> under a pilot program starting today in oregon, customers who install solar energy systems to their homes can receive checks from power companies for energy they generate and use. >> the seattle times, is the secret to survival resting in ozzy osbourne's genes? the former drug and alcohol abuser and drug legend is paying $45,000 to have his dna examined and figure out why he is still alive. >> you need to do that, too, by the way. >> related story, let's go to willie in washington. >> keith richards they should study his body and replicate that because no way his body should be alive. a look at the playbook. good morning, patrick. >> the key for me living longer is to eat more chicken heads like ozzy osbourne apparently did? >> he used to snort lines of ants, too, but a story for another day. an interesting debate going back and forth after the "rolling stone" piece came out. michael hastings wrote it which led to the dismissal of general mcchrystal. you had lara logan slamming hastings for exposing the general. on the other side you had matt taibbi of "rolling stone" ripping lara logan. lay it out for us. >> what is your default position going into an embedded military operation in terms what have is on the record and what what is off the record. hastings believed unless you say it's off the record, it's on the record. a lot of people support that view. some saying it should be off the record or at least, you know, don't try to sport of expose people who might say something silly in an off-handed comment. in other words, don't take advantage of your position. i think what is most interesting about this is not only the debate among reporters and media observers but while the rolling stone piece was a sentimental piece of journalism in the afghan war, some fear it could be one of the last because the military is upset about this piece. the fall jaw was fallout was not necessarily good for them and we had about press access being curtailed in the wake of that. this couldn't come at a more important time where you had the congress looking at war funding. you had general petraeus being, obviously, supported by the u.s. senate by not a lot of talk about the afghan policy. the fact that journalism might curtailed could be a long-term loss and the fact of the matter is we need this information more than ever. >> yeah, i don't really get the controversy. if there is a reporter in your presence, unless there's an understanding that it's off the record, it's on the record, right? >> what was the criticism of this piece? >> yeah. what exactly was it -- you said that -- >> cbs lara logan who is a war correspondent. >> her argument was that, in fact, he had people out in the field of battle who are exhausted or tired, risking their lives so they may have said some maybe colorful quotes. the fact of the matter is -- >> they were in paris. >> i'm sorry? >> they were in paris. they were in paris getting drunk. >> right. >> i don't -- so is she suggesting that they censor -- i just don't get it. >> help us understand. >> i hate to sound like tom hanks in "big." i don't get it. i don't get it. what are you supposed to do, protect your sources some. >> i think your concern is right. i think most people are siding with hastings on this. ironically, military pushed back and said a lot of what he wrote was off the record. how do they community that? giving "the washington post" anonymous quotes and if they want to go on the record about that. there is a atypical argument. meaning if you do what hastings did, a lot of beat reporters say if we had done that, we would never get embedded, that sort of a sherm game for a long-term loss. you'll never be embedded ever again. there are pros and cons to the two forms of journal i- >> let me ask harold ford in new york. harold, you went on codells around the world. if you're flying around the world and there is a reporter there sitting next to you the whole time, you know that every word you say is on the record, right? i mean, this isn't hard. >> you do. i would imagine, unless you ask, it's still unclear to me, and it's hard to believe, i find it incredulous that someone with the experience of mcchrystal would not have asked for some of this to be off the record. i listened to lara logan over the weekend and she explained that there was just an assumption when you're -- that there are a different set of rules when you're in a battlefield, that you assume things are off the record unless they are stated they are on the record. i've never been in the battlefield so it's unclear to me what the rules are. i mean, i'm always skeptical of reporters and you would imagine that someone in general mcchrystal's position would be skeptical as well and would restrain or at least some restraint and evidently he didn't. >> if everything is stated to be on the record and everything else is just assumed to be off the record, how do we really know what is going on out there? come on. >> it's ridiculous. >> patrick, finalist for the dnc 2012. >> charlotte, minneapolis, cleveland, and st. louis. a lot of people are sort of looking at st. louis. i'm saying it's not going to cleveland unless lebron still is there. that's my bet. >> are there any other choices? by any chance? >> no. those are the main four. they had st. paul in 2008 to minneapolis might not get it. vegas would be great. >> honolulu? >> tiger woods proved that bad things happen in vegas, so i don't know. >> wait a minute. don't tar vegas with that! >> it's all tiger's fault. >> montreal would be nice. >> i would love paris. >> montreal. >> rnc, we could go back there. >> patrick, we could go on all day. coming up on "morning joe," facing the public. for the first time, bp executives agree to take questions from americans who are furious about the spill. we will tell you how you can sound off to bp directly. don't forget you can always listen to "morning joe" live on satellite radio sirius 90 and xm 120. keep it on "morning joe." ♪ [ upbeat instrumental ] [ rattling ] [ gasps ] [ rattling ] [ laughing ] [ announcer ] close enough just isn't good enough. - if your car is in an accident, - [ laughing continues ] make sure it's repaired with the right replacement parts. travelers. take the scary out of life. ♪ >> welcome back to "morning joe." apparently my brother is in town. >> your brother is in town! >> and i didn't know. >> you got a lot of friends in chicago. >> i got friends and family in chicago. >> just a couple of weeks ago, some people, they love you. >> oh, that's nice. you're making that up. all right. welcome back. >> go ahead. >> john boehner might not. but, otherwise, you're very loveable. new pictures out of brussels this morning where general david petraeus is briefing officials after being appointed the new commander of the war in afghanistan yesterday. in a rare show of congressional unity the senate voted aunels to confirm petraeus and he takes over for general stanley mcchrystal who was ousted over a "rolling stone" article last week. petraeus expected to arrive in afghanistan this weekend. >> i want to say. how fascinating right here. i'm sorry, t.j., take this shot right here. they have this sort of feel-good hearing with petraeus. they don't debate the war really. and here is the headline in the "usa today," that the nato toll reaches a record high of 102. >> for this month. >> for this month. >> in june. and that's close to the iraq highs when everybody -- especially, i'm going to call them out -- the anti-war left. remember this is horrible, this is immoral, the worst thing ever. dead silence. dead silence on the hill by all of the people wearing sack cloth and ashes and tearing their garments and saying these wars were immoral and it was horrible, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. dead silence. >> where are they? >> from the same democrats that were shocked and stunned. i guess the anti-war left thinks it's bad when a young american gets hiled killed in iraq, but it's okay in a young american gets killed in afghanistan in the nation's longest war ever with no exist strategy, no way out. way to go, anti-war left. way to prove that you're run by political hacks that really are only against wars when republicans are present. >> that truly -- >> good job. way to go. >> you're a thinker. >> you're so immoral! oh! >> a republican will be president. there will be war and they will go, oh, peace in our time! >> i'm sorry, but you're right. >> peace! we are -- a democrat is president, ah! you know what? let's go to a concert. seriously? >> no. >> seriously? the anti-war left is immoral. the anti-war left, seriously, engaging in situational ethics. the anti-war left on capitol hill, dead silent why americans are dying in an endless war. you have no credibility. no credibility at all. you are n a word, pathetic. now back to news. >> exactly. may not agree with joe all the time but he has consistent convictions on things and i wish they would, too. >> they are pathetic. >> can i move on? >> i'm done. have a drink. >> feel good? >> yeah. >> the executive in char of the oil crisis is expected to answer tough questions this afternoon when he sits down for a live interview that will be web cast at 3:30. bob dudley is expecting to answer questions directly from the american public. pbs news hour. >> what did you say? >> i said bp. i'm an idiot! oh, well! >> i'm sure she sponsored it. it's the pills. you have to forgive her. >> i apologize. that was stupid. yeah, okay. all right. moving on to pose questions they want viewers to pose questions in a variety of topics including bp's accountable, cleanup plan and the disaster's virnlted impact. go to youtube.com/citizentube, all one word. oh, good. oh, dear! we keep getting back to john boehner. >> stop it. >> tanning salons in effect today. the 10% fee is part of a health care reform package that president obama signed into law in march and will generate $3 billion by 2019. i'm all for a gas tax at this point to deal with our energy issues. a huge one. let's just do it. >> let's go to willie with sports. >> who has the courage? >> big day in sports, guys. as of midnight, lebron james is a free agent. nba team representatives will waste no time today. they've been rearranging their entire franchises for years waiting for this very day to get a shot to bring lebron james to their city. all those reps will be traveling to ohio to make their presentations to the two-time mvp. the leading contenders as of this moment, you got the bulls, the heat, the clippers, probably a long shot. the hometown cleveland cavaliers, the knicks and the new jersey nets who will eventually become the brooklyn nets. speaking of that little writhe rivalry locally here. free agent trash talk perhaps. a billboard put up outside madison square garden here where the knicks play in new york showing jay-z and the new owner russian billionaire together. they are the nets owner staring down madison square garden. perhaps a little lesson, a message for lebron right there. the nets moving to brooklyn in a couple of years. interesting. one of the new york papers points out this morning the incredible taxes here in new york could drive lebron to miami where there is no state income tax and you're talking about the kind of money he is going to make, that is a big chunk of change. all right. wimbledon upsets continue. roger federer losing yesterday, big upset to tomas berdych of the czech republic. four-setless for federer snapping his bid for a record-tying seventh wimbledon title and marks the first time in eight years he will not play in the wimbledon final. he has dominated that tournament. after the match, federer kind of whining some some injuries. >> i'm unhappy with the way i'm playing. i couldn't play the way i wanted to play. i am struggling with a little bit back and leggish but that just doesn't quite allow me to play the way i would like to play, so it's frustrating to say the least. >> he had some physical problems that his back and a leg were bothering him. what did you notice and what is your reaction to him saying that? >> yeah, i mean, i don't know if he just looking for some excuses after the match or something like that. >> that is federer's opponent accusing federer for making excuses. >> this is a guy that cried like a little baby after he was beaten by nadal a few years ago. why can't he just lose and suck it up? pathetic tip your cap to the underdog. he beat you and move on. show a little bit of class. >> like jim brown pulling up in that race with frank. >> speaking of pulled hamstrings. so sad. baseball just a terrible year for the orioles. even when they are doing good, they are doing bad. this is a home run. this has to be a great moment for the orioles and their fans, right? luke scott hits a home run but watch what he does as he rounds first base. he pulls his hamstring in the home run trot! it took him more than a minute to cross home plate! he pulled his hamstring. they are going to be re-evaluating him today. >> terrible. >> that's on a home run. they can't win for losing, joe. it's sad, it's sad! >> bad news bears! >> coming up next, we're very excited about this. bob bradley, coach of team usa. >> that is exciting. >> and the other guy sitting there is mr. bennett and mika's must read opinion pages. mika will be in lancaster, pennsylvania, tomorrow for a book signing of her national best-seller, "all things at once." >> it's my husband's hometown. >> at the red rose commons shopping center. drop on by and see mika! >> stop it! ♪ here i am baby signed sealed delivered i'm yours ♪ someone has taken my place ♪ >> why do you keep saying this government is a tyranny? why do keep saying -- >> look at the forest through the trees. >> look. >> no. you're putting those words -- >> it says gather your army and the army we're referring to. >> against whom? >> gather our political army. >> our political army? he is wearing a military uniform and he says gather your armies and you're saying that's a metaphor? >> chris, down do you know what a metaphor is? >> are you a metaphor for a guy running for office or are you a real candidate? >> you -- time now for the op-eds. you're in the "the new york times." gail collins wrote about you. i'm going to read it. it's not you. the most unhappy fellow. what is his problem? joe scarborough, the msnbc talk show host and former republican congressman volunteered an answer. every republican i talk to says john boehner you can see him at bars, he's not a hard worker defending his boss to politi politico.com boehner spokesman said he has raised about 27 million. how many of those were golfing events, do you think? that's just the beginning. that means boehner is averaging about 1.25 fund-raising events per day, no wonder he looks tired. no wonder he doesn't know that the deepwater drilling moratorium only involves deepwater drilling. she quotes baber boehner saying it is killing an end with a nuclear weapon. >> harold ford, is this package killing an ant with a nuclear weapon, this wall street reform package? >> i think most on wall street they are parts of this bill and parts they like and don't like. they recognize it's a necessity. i think from a policy standpoint it's a solid start and i think people are ready to get it behind them and get on with the business of helping facilitate the movement of capital. >> it will cost american jobs they are saying, will it? >> i don't. i think the bill has a ways to go to be implemented. a number of things they will establish rules around. no secret many on wall street want a different set of rules and wanted changes and wanted more honor honorus things. i think they are willing to get on with this and allocate capital in a fair and smart way. >> sam stein, a lot of democrats weren't concerned this would go forward. are they happy with the product? >> most of them are and some will vote against it because it still doesn't go far enough. russ feingold someone of them. the problem with this bill it leaves almost too much power in the hands of regulators and regulators change over time so they want rules in place that don't matter and where the rubber hits the road. this is not a nuclear weapon on an end. that is silly. >> it's important to remember, also, joe, everyone on wall street and all of these banks aren't bad people. bad things happened and you have to fix those things. remember, we are number one in the world in this industry and we shouldn't hurt this industry to the point where you put people out of work and you prevent us from being the force that we have been. we should be adults about it. fix it and move on. i think this bill is a start. >> gentlemen, we will continue this conversation next hour. next, u.s. soccer coach bob bradley and u.s. soccer analyst roger bennett is next on "morning joe"! >> roger! boss: and now i'll turn it over to the gecko. gecko: ah, thank you, sir. as we all know, geico has been saving people money on rv, camper and trailer insurance... ...as well as motorcycle insurance... oh...sorry, technical difficulties. boss: uh...what about this? 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what made them so special? >> we talk about the fact that you can't control sometimes a referee's call or a bounce, but you can control what you're all about every game. and we understand that in order to be successful, it needs to be a team thing with us. and everybody was in to it. >> roger, i guess that's one thing that has made them special at the beginning and really caught our attention. they got bad calls. they kept their heads down. they just kept working and kept doing their job and came out on top. >> more than bad calls. congratulations, coach. you did make us fall in love with the american soccer team. they represent traits that are very rare in the game. one thing they kept doing over and over again was leaking a goal in the first five minutes. if they didn't, the goal ball would hit the bar. mentally what was going on that? not in the beginning of the game but the early goal in the extra time the goal would fly in. >> in the end that cost us. we talked about it. we understood that managing game early is so important, yet we still seem to have lapses. i don't know if that's is experience or whether sometimes it's just the game at work. >> different things in different games but it wasn't a consistent inherent flow? >> no, it's true. some games, i think we actually started well, looked like we were in a good rhythm and still, the first chance went the other way. so something we've got to keep thinking about. >> coach, let's talk big picture on this now. we felt like we were at this moment when the women won the world cup in '98-'99 and there is so much edge enthusiasm and excitement in the united states. i was in bar with my 11-month-old son. the roof went off the joint when he scored the goal on saturday. i love to take my 11-month-old to a bar now and then. >> new york protective custody? >> he loves a drink and a smoke to unwind after preschool. how do we take this moment different than all of the others? >> i think a few things are happening. first, as most people know, the u.s. is bidding again for either the 2018 or the 2022 world cup. we hosted it in 1994. that was early in our development. the opportunity to do it again after mls has been up and running and with some of the successes we've seen in world cups, would make a tremendous difference this time around. i think it would really push the game higher. we're also to go so many different things on the development level. u.s. soccer has a program with development app academies that the kids around the country have a better start and better coaches with young kids and getting into our cities and making sure that players from urban areas are getting involved with the game. so a lot of good efforts right now. >> coach, let me -- we just got an e-mail, a lot of our friends from the white house watch this show, capitol hill. we just got an e-mail from somebody that works at the white house, pretty high up, who said you're the man. he said because of you, he said this kid from the -- this black kid from the middle of chicago finally gets it about soccer, he says he loves it and that it's sweeping across the country. but he says the most amazing thing and i agree, because willie has played sports. anybody who a has played sports, hates coaches' sons because they always get preference shal treatment. in this case, this white house worker says what we all said, oh, my god, the coach's son was the spark. roger, is it not true? the coach's son, time and time again, the spark. >> world class. >> look at that sweet picture. >> world class. talk about your son. >> when you're around the game since you're little, you do pick up some things, and that includes believing in yourself, that includes on the field doing anything to help your team win and i think he's picked up a few of those qualities from some of the players that i've coached, not from me. >> oh, that's so nice! >> thank you so much, coach bob bradley. >> thank you. >> you've made believers of us all. we are really proud of what you and the guys did. >> and roger! >> and roger. >> roger and i can help you find the next great american stricker. >> i'm waiting. >> chuck todd, donnie deutch, all ahead on "morning joe." cone on, kiddo, let's go. hold on a second... come on up here, where your brothers sit. wow! chevy traverse. a consumers digest best buy, with a 100,000 mile, powertrain warranty. it seats eight comfortably - not that it always has to. now, get 0% apr for 60 months on a 2010 traverse with an average finance savings of around fifty four hundred dollars. see your local chevy dealer. oh! just come snuggle with mama. 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[ female announcer ] new ageless vitality. save $20 at aveeno.com. that's the beauty of nature and science. ♪ they are having the confirmation hearings down in washington, d.c. with elena kagan and so far, the woman has offered very few opinions. i thought, my god, how do you find a woman like that? >> yeah. >> good morning from chicago! mika and i here. great to be in chicago. >> i love chicago. it's the best and apparently my family is here as well. >> we got willie geist who is new york along with msnbc p political analyst harold ford jr. and sam stein and senior political analyst for msnbc and "time" magazine's mark halpern. a lot to talk about today. we can talk about john boehner. we will continue that conversation. i do want to just show really quickly the front page of "usa today" talking about how june, death toll in afghanistan is the highest in that month and also it's near iraq war highs. this just seems so bizarre to me that during mark halpern, the height of the iraq killing in 2006 and in 2007, that this was on the front page of the papers. americans were engaged, the anti-war left was enraged and democratic senators were beating their chests and self-righteous indignation. now, for the most part, silence. you had petraeus go through unanimously and really not a discussion about america's longest running war in these hearings. what is going on? >> joe, over the course of these two wars, there has been ebbs and flows how much focus there has been. sometimes the story deserves more attention than it gets and sometimes there is more attention. my history in these two conflicts the least amount of attention and focus and the costly 2:00 conflicts are at really critical periods and the petraeus hearings and flap over mcchrystal hasn't really brought the conflicts and stakes involved back. i think part of it is a press story but it's largely a story about a government we have discussed for a while isn't sw interested and doesn't have an incentive it highlight what is going on and i think it's incumbent upon the press but also people on the left who oppose us and maybe people on the right to step you up and say we need a national discussion about what is happening. >> we really do. we really do. >> remember there would be all of those hearings and donald rumsfeld was evil and george bush was evil and they would shut down hearings all the time and war criminals. >> you're making a fair argument. >> americans are dying for what? now, the toll is as high as it's been. higher than it's been in afghanistan and about as high as it's been in iraq and, yet, it just seems like -- >> well, i think -- >> not a real debate. >> -- people are worried about their wallets and the oil spill. >> a lot to talk about this. >> this could be up there as well. >> americans dying every month. at record highs now in afghanistan. and nobody is paying attention. going with the news. we have a lot to talk about. the house of representatives has voted to approve a sweeping overhaul of the nation' financial system. it passed yesterday along a large party line vote would bolster consumer protections and create and oversight council and restrict risky maneuvers that proponents say led to the 2008 financial crisis. if the senate approves the measure t won't be until mid july since republicans say they want to spend the fourth of july recess reviewing the bill's final language. president obama had wanted to sign the bill on july fourth. for the third time in as many weeks, senate republicans have filibustered a bill to continue providing unemployment checks to millions of people. i don't know why they would do this. however, the measure is expected to pass once a replacement is in place for the late senator robert byrd. let me ask you that. mark halpern, what is the political reasoning for saying no to an extension of unemployment benefits? >> when unemployment is at 10%. >> yeah. obviously, republicans are doing it for a reason. what is their logic? >> well, i mean, this is a case i think they are doing something they recognize has a big political downside. they don't believe we should continue to spend money that isn't paid for and run up more debt and deficit without offsetting spending cuts. >> sam stein, though, it's a dangerous tactic, is it not, when 10% of americans are out of work? i'm saying a dangerous tactic politically. it seems to me you could cut government programs first. >> sure. >> that don't impact out of work americans so much. >> yeah, no. there is 1.2 million people have been out of work over six months. since june not receiving unemployment checks. that's a lot of. they want to use unstimulus funds but that would be sort of anti-stimulative. and there is another threat of thought that goes to the gop which is that unemployment benefits discourage people from going out and finding work. which i think is, you know, somewhat laughable. not that people aren't interested in getting jobs. there are no jobs out there for them to get but you hear people like nevada senatorial candidate saying it is making people selfish and lazy and that is a little insensitive. >> she is a piece of work. i don't even want to go there. >> president obama singled out john boehner, the president did, after boehner criticized the financial reform bill. in an interview with "the pittsburgh tribune review." >> there is something than the measure i grew up. i went there because my job and our job as a generation is to make sure that those opportunities were available to us, are are available for our kids and grandkids and it's not going to happen if they are imprisoned under a mountain of debt, regulations and -- >> is that ensensitive to wall street, regulatory reform? >> this is killing an ant with a nuclear weapon. >> speaking in wisconsin, the president slammed boehner and the gop for siding with wall street. >> the leader of the republicans in the house said that financial reform was like -- i'm quoting here -- using a nuclear weapon to target an ant. that's what he said. he compared the financial crisis to an ant. he can't be that out of touch. do you think the financial crisis was an ant and we just need a little ant swatter to fix this thing? or do you think we need to restructure how we regulate the financial system so you aren't the hook again and we don't have this kind of crisis again? >> yeah. he made it too easy for the president yesterday. boehner shot back yesterday saying, quote, i wasn't minimizing the crisis america faced. i was pointing out that washington democrats have produced a bill that will actually kill more jobs and make the situation worse. the american people want leadership from the white house, not more childish partisanship. >> harold ford, is this bill that the democrats passed yesterday with the help of a few republicans, is it going to kill jobs in america? >> well, you have some time before some of these regulations take place. as we discussed in the last hour, regulators will discuss and analyze and then offer rules around a lot of these questions. >> but will it kill jobs? >> i don't think so in the short term. i do think that we can't ig more that we face a credit challenge in the country with small businesses facing challenges, accessing credit. and there are some legitimate concerns whether or not this legislation, as it was written and if some of the more draconian things come out of it, whether or not small businesses which are the engine of economic and job creation growth in the country, whether or not they will still have access. but i do think that president bush -- i mean president obama were right to make some of those comments yesterday. i would be as focused on republicans opposing jobless unemployment aid to the jobless in the country. i think that says more about the different philosophies of competing philosophical competing of the parties than this reform bill does. >> mark halpern, what about this financial reform bill? will it even matter in the fall? will people be talking about it in the fall? will republicans say it's going to cost jobs? will democrats say republicans are the party of wall street? or is this something that they just sign and nobody pays attention to in november? >> well, look. on the substance a lot of this is going to depend on the implementation being done not by the law but the regulators. my gut tells me the people who are going to do that are not people who want to kill a lot of jobs. on the politics this is a disastrous issue for the republicans. one of the few things that the president has pushed that is unam bigusually popular with probably 70% to 80% of the american people. john boehner opened the door for a classic robert gibbs style hard push by the president. this is exactly what the white house wants. whether you think it's fair or not, the white house wants a fight between people like john boehner and the president, a contrast we're for protecting consumers, they are for wall street. this couldn't be a better way as far as the white house is concerned to have the debate go every day between now and election day, not referendum on the president and whether the economy is good. if the republicans keep this up, it will play for a the democrats' hands and the white house will be very, very happy. >> let's talk about john boehner a little bit. unfortunately, i was quoted by gail collins of "the new york times" talking about john boehner's social habits and also politico and i think the huffington post picked it up. a clarification, mark. you were on the set with me yesterday. i did not say that i thought john boehner did not work hard enough. or that he went out and partied because as willie geist and i say, we don't judge. i mean, willie -- >> where would you be out being able to see that yourself since you would be in the christian science reading room or somewhere else? >> voter outreach, guys. voter outreach. >> as willie says, judge he be not be judged. i agree with willie and associate myself with is his scriptural pass achl there. on this john boehner issue, though. obviously, capitol hill is very small. people know what everybody does on capitol hill and john boehner is known as a guy who likes to golf, likes to have a good time, and is not known as a hard worker. again, i don't know that personally. i know that, though, from talking to scores of republicans over the past several years. >> i think there are tourists on capitol hill who picked that up if they are there for just a day. >> why is it -- >> it's not a big secret. it's not controversial. in fact, if you look at the statement that politico got in response to what you said from boehner's very able spokesman he didn't really deny that the reporting that you laid out. he just said john boehner also goes to a lot of fund-raisers. look. there's no perfect leader on capitol hill. john boehner brings some strengths to this job but some of the younger republicans and some people who work with the leaders office have said for years, that he does not necessarily drive an agenda the way newt gingrich did in a prove way and there are times he has got other things on his mind than wheel to the grindstone. >> willie, you were there yesterday and been with me every day. my man, we don't judge, do we? we just love and report what people say. >> judgizing a waste of time. i was not with you on the set. i read about it afterwards. >> i was drunk yesterday morning because i had been out all night but i'm not running the republican party. >> i red it on the blogs, the internet as the kids say. >> you're being naughty. i'm moving on. >> you do that. >> are you finished? >> completely. 17 hours of questioning over three days, supreme court noom knee elena kagan wrapped up her testimony before the senate judiciary committee yesterday but was it enough? after pressed on issues of abortion and campaign finance, senator ar ten specter of pennsylvania criticized kagan what he believed was an unwillingness to engage in detailed conversation. >> we started off with a standards that you articulated at the university of chicago law school about substantive discussions and they say we haven't had them here and i'm inclined to agree with them. it would be my hope that we could find someplace between voting no and having some sort of substantive answers. but i don't know that it would be useful to pursue these questions any further. >> kmpls hearings will continue today as the committee hears from outside witnesses for and against kagan's nomination. committee vote is expected later this month. >> mark halpern, it's a done deal, isn't it some. >> yeah. >> it has been from the beginning. i don't want to hurt myself patting myself on the back this early in the morning, but from the moment the vacancy came open and after they nominated her, it seemed clear to me despite the talk that the groups would use to raise a lot of money and the republicans would use this to raise cultural issues, this was never going to be a fight. the democrats -- once the president chose a cautious pick, which he did, blank slate with someone of qualifications outside the judiciary, this was a done deal and the republicans know filibustering a qualified female nominee just isn't in their interests. there are other issues they want this election done about and in the end she was going to be confirmed any way and she will be. >> more war news. general petraeus addressing people in brussels this morning after being appointed the new commander in the war in afghanistan yesterday. in a rare show of congressional unity, the senate voted aunels to unanimously to confirm petraeus. he is expected to arrive in aelve this weekend. >> harold ford, general, everybody is relying on this guy. he is now the face of the afghanistan war, isn't he? >> it's obvious from not only the vote yesterday but comments made by senior democrats in the senate they are willing to give him carte blanche to give him a far ranging about the decisions on for example there in afghanistan the decisions he expects from them. it's reported this morning that perhaps ryan crocker, whose name resurfaced as a potential member -- new member of petraeus team and maybe replacing one of the civilians on the ground in afghanistan. the pressure is on petraeus and ultimately the buck will stop with the president. if petraeus is able to duplicate what he was able to produce in iraq and afghanistan, it obviously will help president obama and democrats mightily come november. >> sam stein, where are the anti-war democrats on capitol hill when you have a petraeus hearing coming at the same time. you have the front page of the "usa today" reporting that the june death toll in afghanistan was the highest ever and, in fact, it's reaching iraq highs. where are all of those people that were so self-righteously indignant four, five years ago about iraq? >> well, the anti-war democrats are still there but far fewer of them. as you mentioned, the mantle of the mainstream of the democratic party is skeptic of the war but supportive of the president. that congresswoman withheld funds for afghanistan because she was worried about the corruption of the car guy government. they are startinging to crack down on corruption because they know they have to have a political solution ultimately. maybe with the death toll rising maybe louder voices but you're right. it's been deathly silent and it's kind of depressing. >> i must say i'm stunned by the silence on capitol hill during the petraeus hearing. this with. this was a great opportunity. >> amazing opportunity. >> to debate the war. i would love to have the sort of discussion we had with your father and john meacham yesterday, where we have leaders tell general petraeus, we want you to run a war based on anti-terrorism and not an anti-insurgency campaign. we don't want to rebuild afghanistan. we want to kill terrorists in afghanistan to bring our troops home but that discussion was not had yesterday because there was in the a real debate yesterday. i'm not saying put flowers in everybody's guns. i'm saying if americans are going to die, you damn well better have a focused end game there and they don't have -- >> and -- >> we don't know what the strategy is. is it anti-terrorism or anti-surrogacy? the two are complete different things. >> exactly. joe, two days ago, last weekend, leon panetta was on abc saying only 100 al qaeda in afghanistan and i don't recall that being brought up in the petraeus hearings. >> exactly. we went into afghanistan in 2001 to wipe out al qaeda. there are about 50, 60 al qaeda members left in afghanistan. why are we still there? we're trying to rebuild a country that was never built in the first place. there's been mission creep and over the past year and a half, we've added three times as many troops. we have 3 approximate -- 33,000 and now a hundred thousand there and we have no focus in strategy. we have generals that want to stay there another decade rebuilding this country. >> we are going to talk about this headline and this issue a lot more this morning. also in the weeks and months ahead. >> we will do it. oregon police on reopening an investigation into allegations that former vice president al gore made unwanted sexual advances to a massage therapist at a hotel back in 2006. >> oregonian broke this news. the national enquirer has been talking about it. and passing on information that i just am not comfortable talking about here. the bottom line is they've reopened the investigation but we're not going to -- we're not going to source the national enquirer on this program. let's go to mark halpern, though, because he is an expert in such things. mark -- >> three-hour massages? >> yes. now, marks we stayed away from this before when it was sourced by "the national enquirer." but the oregonian is writing about it and the police are reopening the investigation. what say you, sir? this is your realm of expertise. >> another thing happened that makes it more appropriate to talk about al gore put out a statement up until now his people have been giving strict no comment. a statement not in his name but characterizing his view which is that these allegations are false. and that it says there, that the further investigation will only benefit him. look. still a lot of unanswered questions and this has gotten a lot of attention because a long police statement from the alleged accuser and, obviously, it comes at the same time as the gores have now separated. i think that there is this question and the associated press when they wrote about it raises above anything else was there a thorough investigation? was it an allegation or thoughly investigated? i hate to comment on "national enquirer" but based on their work on the john edwards and other political stories they are called the tabloid of record and we can't just because it's not there, it's not true. >> willie geist, same thing, i know that -- met bill clinton and why bill got elected. but willie geist -- >> don't bring willie in! it's fine, honey. he's a newsman now! >> he's a newsman now that he's on "today" every day. willie, the thing is they opened the investigation, the police did, and they said there was insufficient evidence and closed it. do you think they are opening it again just because of political pressure? >> i think it's all over the papers. it's drawing some heat. we will see if there is actually fire there. we stayed away from it, as you pointed out and did it this morning as mark said because the gore family was compelled to put out a statement and actually respond this time. so we'll keep tabs on it. if there is actual news to report, we'll do it. >> if the police are investigating it, it's news. >> chuck todd is next with this morning's developing headlines out of the white house. also we will get an exclusive first look at the new cover of "time" magazine revealed right here on "morning joe." we'll be right back. i'd like one of those desserts and some coffee. - sure, cake or pie? - pie. - apple or cherry? - cherry. oil or cream? oil or cream? cream. some use hydrogenated oil. reddi-wip uses real dairy cream. nothing's more real than reddi-wip. reddi-wip uses real dairy cream. discover customers are getting 5% cashback bonus at the pump... and at many of the places their summer plans take them. it pays to get more. it pays to discover. ♪ lately, there's a minority of senators from the other party who have had different ideas. as we speak, they are using their power to stop this relief from going to the merp people, and they won't even let these measures come up for a vote. they made the calculation if obama fails, then we win. right? that was the basic theory. they figured if we just keep on saying no to everything and nothing gets done, then somehow people forget who got us into this mess in the first place and we'll get more votes in november. >> welcome back to "morning joe." here with us now nbc news chief white house correspondent and nbc news political director chuck todd who also the co-host of msnbc "the daily rundown." he never stops. >> he looking at the blackberry when we were going to break and he is on the phone busy. >> and here this, too. >> does your have wireless? >> always working and doing deals like eddie murphy in "trading places." the question is what is driving your news today? >> what is driving our news? well, it's what drove vice president biden yesterday in ohio and it's probably what drives chicago bulls fan barack obama in the white house. all about lebron, baby. where is lebron going to go? >> lebron? >> he is going to stay in the swing state of ohio, or go to the favorite's team in chicago. the president has a speech on immigration today. mayor michael bloomberg is coming down. >> let's talk about lebron. talk about lebron. i want him at madison square garden. i think i'm out of luck. i think lebron is going to be right here in the wendy city. what do you think? >> it feels like that is where he is headed. he hope he goes to miami. he is talking about dwyane wade and lebron getting together and winning a couple of championships in miami so maybe a few people will show up at the heat games if the two are there. the big reason he would want to go to miami is no state income tax. that is the big lure for these free agents to go to the state of florida. >> i can tell you, willie geist, i lived in florida and msnbc was paying me $5.73 an hour, plus i got rockette tickets. >> oh, wow. >> that $5.73 an hour in new york city seriously so much less than how it did for me in florida. the vegas odds right now, willie, have lebron going to miami. >> miami. keep in mind, these change by the day based on the way people are placing bets but miami did move ahead by a little bit of chicago. miami, chicago, then cleveland. it's funny you bring that up about the income tax. the new york city post said if lebron does not come to new york, blame david paterson and the thugs in albany who can't run a government and figure out taxes. >> what is your guess? >> it's savannah. she is building a closet for her vintage dresses! >> i don't know. >> good lord. >> somebody is hammering at the white house. you think chicago and i think chicago. chuck, are you also thinking it's the bulls? >> i think it's going to end up the bulls but i'm just hoping he goes to miami because, again, they don't get enough fans down there. they have three. if they go, they might even sell out a playoff game! so that would be great. >> this is a useless segment from the white house. >> chuck was actually in miami when the miami hurricanes, nobody remembers, but in '79 and '80 when snellenberger first got there they would give away miami hurricane football tickets with every whopper you bought. >> it was burger king. that's right. but in all seriousness this lebron thing. we joke about it but it is a political issue in the ohio governor's race. ted strickland it's a big deal and talked about the economic impact. if he leaves cleveland, the economic impact to the downtown area there that, all of a sudden, they lose a whole bunch of potential revenues. so it's a pretty serious issue there. strickland take talked about it and says the republican john casey hasn't been out there enough to keep lebron in the state of ohio. i know it sounds silly but you know how these things happen. >> it doesn't sound silly, chuck. >> stop it, mika. i know the president has weighed in on this. i'm dead serious here. has he made a call to lebron? has anybody in the white house made a call to lebron saying go to chicago? >> my guess politically and hearing the vice president last night they would rather keep him in ohio because you don't want to hurt that state economically any more and if he starts making phone calls to lebron, let's get him here in washington. there is a way you could do the math on this crazy salary cap that david stern created that you could do the math and somehow get lebron here in washington. why not? >> hey, harold ford, are you still -- is he still on the set? >> i think i am. >> harold, where do you think lebron is going to go? >> look. i think the knicks or the nets will figure out how to get him. carlos boozer and lebron james will play for the knicks next year and be a different league and a different city. >> i think you're right. >> dark horse for you, joe. >> yeah? >> mark cuban in dallas. that guy figures everything out. imagine putting those two guys together. willie, don't you think that's a marketing match made in heaven? >> oh, my gosh! >> if anybody can pull it off, it's him. a huge yeah blitz. the nets put this out in the daily news with jay-z who owns 1% of the team but he is there with the new russian bill nair. billionaire. the blueprint for lebron, come to jersey. >> when do the nets move to brooklyn? >> a couple of years still. he would have to play in newark a couple of years and then go to brooklyn. >> chuck, that was the best what is going on at the white house ever. what is on the daily rundown today? >> it's july 1st. that means it's new laws day. i will drop you this hint. what do pythons and bongs both have in common? you got to tune in at 9:00. >> well, anybody that roomed with willie in vanderbilt knows the answer to that question. >> they will lose viewers. >> thanks so much, chuck. >> the new cover of "time" magazine revealed next on "morning joe." we'll be right back. ♪ a day once dawned ♪ and it was beautiful ♪ ♪ so, look, see the sights ♪ that you learned [ male announcer ] at&t covers 97% of all americans. ♪ this summer, get the exclusive samsung strive for just $19.99. only from at&t. ♪ ♪ that we do it together [ male announcer ] it's not just car people anymore. nowadays, all kinds of folks are changing their own oil. and now that walmart's rolling back prices on top brands like mobil, pennzoil and valvoline, doing it yourself can save you even more. ♪ with thousands of great rollbacks, it's rollback time. save money. live better. walmart. ♪ welcome back to "morning joe." look at that shot. so pretty. it is summer. with us now from new york, actually, you know what? i'm going to let willie handle this. he is such a big news man now. willie tarks it away. >> thank you, mika. joining us here in new york, "time" contributor and media entrepreneur, steven brill. he wrote the cover story for the latest issue of "time" magazine. good to see you. >> good morning. >> you say these are the best laws that money can buy. $3.5 billion spent on lobbying last year. >> washington gets a bum rap. everybody assumes you send money to washington and it's wasted. here is $3.5 billion that is not wasted. the problem is that it's money that money interests are spending on lobbyists and they get a great return on that and that is what this piece is about and it sort of takes you through the financial reform bill paragraph by paragraph and explains how lobbyists were able to steer it slightly one way or another. >> what were the big headlines that were affected in the final product as a result of lobbying, what do we, as consumers, lose? >> the headlines are that we got a bill and most people who wanted the bill think it's a pretty good bill. it's exactly the opposite that counts. it's what is not in the headlines. it's how the definitions get changed, how there are car vows for certain kind of investments that the banks are still allowed to make, for example. that's where all of the lobbyists do their work is in the details that -- that are really hard to watch and impossible to understand. i mean, you know, harold, you would know this. i mean, this is where the real -- rubber meets the road. >> i would agree. i'm not as opposed to the idea of lobbying. >> i'm not opposed to it. you can't be. the constitution, you know, absolutely says that it's a right that we have. >> i mean, there were times in congress when we had big pieces of legislation, controversial pieces that i was grateful at times that people from my district came up and at least gave me a perspective that might not have been the headlines or it might have been buried in some of the bigger pieces and bigger commentary that were done on things. but your point is well taken. it's an enormous issue and a lot of money spent there. and you have to hope at the end of the day that each of these big bills, health care, financial regulatory reform that they still come out in a way to cure the problem ian. >> the issue isn't whether people should lobby or whether it's illegal, the issue is the balance. is there a same kind of imbalance in the legal legal system i have a great lawyer and i will be better off. at least in the legal system, you don't have the people who are in court giving money to the judge and the jury. which is what you have on capitol hill. >> sam stein of the huffington post is with us in washington. did the lobbyists win on financial reform or did they do -- did democrats do as well as they could have hoped to do? >> i think it's a strong bill but, obviously, there are carve outs. auto dealers are exempt from the new consumer financial protection agency but sometimes it's not even lobbying itself but the threat of lobbying that has the power in d.c. a campaign fns law recently passed that the nra was going to oppose if it didn't have a exemption. lo and behold it was added to the campaign finance law specifically for the nra and legislation just is passed the house. sometimes you don't have to spend money. the threat of spend money is enough to get lawmakers to do things and that is pretty remarkable. >> mark halpern? >> lots of writing about lobbying is kind of a tax on lobbying or defense of lobbying. what is great about steve's piece is that it lays out the facts of what happens. incredibly balanced way that shows you how lobbying actually works and who makes money off of it and he said the fact it's protect by the first amend amount so silly so say we're going to how wipe it out. can you talk about something else? >> please. >> i have a piece in there even though july is busy right now in washington with some much going on, december is really the month that people need to watch. there's so many things backed up and so many issues we're talking about now are going to be deferred past the midterm elections in to december. and i lay out some of those. there is something else in there by my colleague on nancy pelosi and harry reid that i think is -- i'm sorry. nancy pelosi and the white house i think is a pretty big story. talks about pelosi versus the white house on intelligence oversight. this is an issue that's not gotten much attention but she is being very hawkish in saying the white house can't have a free hand on intelligence and she is challenging them there. the big question will she extend that attitude toward afghanistan? we have talked about the fact she has not been trying to stop the war in any aggressive way and her willingness to go after them on intelligence is a pretty big deal. >> steven, bottom line, lobbizing a fact of life? >> fact of life. >> deal with it. >> you need to try to add some balance to it. >> all right. looks like a great piece. the cover of "time" magazine, steven brill, great to talk to you. >> thanks. >> new details about the alleged russian spies living among us including the 28-year-old suspect who spent lots of time in front of the camera, apparently, because we have a lot of pictures of her. we will talk about that next. ♪ ♪ and i don't know ♪ is this the part ♪ where you let go ♪ is this the part ♪ where you find out ♪ i'm there for you? when it's people who do the right thing, they call it being responsible. when it's an insurance company, they call it liberty mutual. responsibility. what's your policy? liberty mutual. discover customers are getting 5% cashback bonus at the pump... and at many of the places their summer plans take them. it pays to get more. it pays to discover. oh! just come snuggle with mama. 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[ female announcer ] ask your rheumatologist about simponi™. discover customers are getting 5% cashback bonus at the pump... and at many of the places their summer plans take them. it pays to get more. it pays to discover. hey, with us now from washington, d.c., this is big, mika. >> this is very exciting. i was just actually trying to call your wife to say she should tune in. call her it is the top of my -- world-renowned chef and judge of bravo's "top chef," tom colicchio. >> this is big. >> you are in washington, the latest season -- >> how do you use your cell phone? >> it is all right. >> tom, tom this is big. you're testifying today at the house education -- >> call her. >> hearing on improving nutrition. >> i love this. >> for america's children act. sounds like a communist plan to me. mika, you probably like this. >> tom, i like this you are sending an example for the country and using the platform that you have that people love so much to move it forward. tell us about it. >> right. well, this is important. >> it s. >> our children are going hungry and one place that we can actually make an impact is at school lunch. so i think it's so important that we fund this issue and support our children. >> yeah, so, are we as taxpayers actually funding school lunches and programs across the country that are giving kids -- well, meals that aren't nutritious, that -- that are just not good for them? >> that is exactly right. we are filling our kids full of soft drink and fast foods, even in our school lunchrooms now. so many school lunchrooms to make up their deficits, they actually are providing kids with, you know exfast food and soft drinks in the school lunch, sort of make up their budgets. and this has got to stop. we really need to give our kid nutritious food so they can thrive. we are turning our kids into -- problems with obesity, diabetes. this all starts when they are children. >> all right. so let me ask you, tom, because my son, my oldest son, he's hateful little boy, but he says that my food pyramid at the top are fats and oils. let me ask you, in that food pyramid you where exactly do soft drinks fit in? >> it shouldn't be there at all for our children really. >> thank you. >> sugar soft drinks should not be in our school lunchroom at all. >> they shouldn't be in their lives, tom. let's just talk about this when, when do they need to drink a soft drink, like liquid candy and there are children that drink it every day. we need a -- >> okay, let him answer. let him answer t is about him. >> our children's diets. >> stop. stop. >> mika, you are so right. if kids at home, their parents want them to drink soft drink that is fine. we shouldn't be subsidizing that for kids at school. we are going to make our children obese. it shouldn't happen. >> help me out here, tom, i'm serious here -- >> do you really believe this or are you just playing devil's advocate here? >> actually, i'm not even playing devil's advocate, i'm just doing it to irritate mika. i actually agree with mika, don't tell anybody. tom, let me ask you this question, a lot of people out there like me, we grew up, wake up, our parents would give us cap'n crunch, candy bars all day, mcdonald's, coke, mountain dew, et cetera. we ended up okaysome that because we were more active, our parents would put us out at 7 in the morn in summers and exercise all day? why diddant it impact us like it did kids in this generation? >> didn't grew up in my house. my parents made sure we had nutritious food. i'm speaking of personal here, my mother ran a school lunch program in elizabeth, new jersey, where 70% of children qualified for free lunch or reduced lunch a couple years back, i tried get her to retire, five or six years ago. she sat down and said i want to do it a few more years. the kids who come into my lunchroom, i ♪ only meal they are getting all day long. i want to make sure it is good. she would go out of the way and fight the school system to bring in fresh vegetables and foots and lean meats and grains and things like that. it is really important. again this is going to save -- down the road, this is going to save a ton of money it is not going to he show up in health care costs for diabetes, malnutrition and obesity. tom, you sound like a do-gooder, i actually agree with you. let me ask you, tom, i'm from pensacola, florida i have a lot of friends on the gulf coast whose lives are involved with sea food you are trying to help my friends out in the gulf coast. and also, trying to help guys like me saying it is okay to have that shrimp cocktail. it's all right to have the seafood from the gulf. talk about it. >> yeah, i was down in grand isle on sunday and met with a bunch of fishermen, a few from the seafood industry. you know, seafood is not test itted. the usda, they don't inspect seafood like they inspect meat. the food coming out of the gulf right now saturday food coming out of the gulf is inspected. only 30% of the gulf is actually shut off. so fishermen are fishing the other 70%. there's seafood coming from areas in texas and areas west of the spill that's fresh, it's wholesome, it's fine. i think if you want to help -- we all want to help with this effort f you want to help, eat gulf seafood. it's safe. it really s. >> tom, tom -- excuse me, joe, tom, i'm going to be hosting a show myself next week and i need to talk to you uninterrupted, would you come back perhaps and be on for an hour? >> sure. >> i'm serious, next week on "morning joe" with. >> of course. >> that would be great. >> i know you guys spend a little time with us on "top chef," looking forward to that huh? >> yes, i can't wait to see how that turned out t will be exciting. we will see you next week. you are amazing. thank you, tom. >> thank you. >> donny deutsch is standing by in the green room. >> you think he is amazing? >> he is something. >> oh, my god, look at this. >> oh, no. what are you doing? >> we will be back on "morning joe" with. et enge roaring ] hey! 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>> and you're a woman, right, donny? >> oh, that's right. the entree point. >> exactly. >> i got hives. >> ryan standing by, you can work on your hives. anyway, we have a lot to talk about. let's start with what happened on capitol hill yesterday. a little thrown off. >> it is just weird. >> can you go ahead? >> i'm good. i'm good the house of representatives has voted to approve a sweeping overhaul of the nation's financial system. the new legislation passed yesterday along largely party line vote would bolster consumer protections, create an oversight council and restrict risky maneuvers that proponents say led to the 2008 financial crisis. if the senate approves the measure it won't be until mid-july, since republicans said they want to spend the fourth of july recess reviewing the bill's final language. president obama had wanted to sign the bill on july 4th. and for the third time in as many weeks, senate republicans have filibustered a bill to continue providing unemployment checks to millions of people. i mean -- however, the measure is expected to pass once a replacement is in place for the late senator robert byrd. yesterday, president obama singled out house minority leader john boehner after boehner criticized the financial reform bill in an interview with the pittsburgh tribune review. take a listen. >> not the america that i grew up in. and i think i went there because my job and our job as a generation is to make sure that those opportunities were available to us are available for our kids and grand kids. and it's not going to happen if they are imprisoned under a mountain of debt, regulations and -- [ inaudible ]. >> that extend to wall street reform, regulatory reform? >> this is -- this is killing an ant with a nuclear weapon. >> the leader of the republicans in the house said that financial reform was like, i'm quoting here, using a nuclear weapon to target an ant. that's what he said. he compared the financial crisis to an ant. he can't be that out of touch. do you think that the financial crisis was an ant and we just need a little ant swatter to fix this thing or do you think that we need to restructure how we regulate the financial system so you aren't on the hook again and we don't have this kind of crisis again? >> an ant swat wither? what's an ant swatter? >> i know what he meant. it was kind of silly. >> with us now from capitol hill, a man who is reconsidering actually coming on "morning joe" after donny deutsch's statements about mika brzezinski. >> what was that? kind of awkward. >> a guy who has never, ever suggested that john boehner does not work hard enough. >> no. >> congressman paul ryan. so you had this to stay say about the president's comments, this sounded more like a campaign speech by a divider, not a uniter, by a partisan, not a president. tells me the president is not interested in learning from economic mistakes but rather set on repeating them. explain that if you will, paul. >> sure. well, when you come to a town with 14% unemployment rate and the sometime slew work, you just don't know it, that tells me they are trying to double-down with the same economic medicine, which stimulus past, we have lost 3.6 million jobs. stimulus was purported to keep unemployment around 8%. we are with 10% nationwide. it is always good when you have the president come to your district it is exciting to have the commander in chief come to your area, what we got was a campaigner in chief. i was taken aback at how harsh and partisan his words were. that is far from bringing the country together. you know, red state, blue state, united states. what we got was demagoguery and campaign speech. and the strawman arguments try to affix to your opponents views you don't have and knocking down those views intellectually, not a strong argument. >> you said the president engaged in demagoguery. give me an example of that. what did he say? >> when you say that republicans are for the status quo on financial reform, they don't want to do this or want to do that, they like the status quo, that's not true. i don't know anybody who thinks the financial services sector should go on like they were. we just have a huge problem with the huge power grab in this bill. we want the economy to turn around and lots of things we have been proposing to turn this economy around. we don't want high joblessness. >> specifically, paul what did you not like about this financial services reform bill that passed yesterday? >> specifically what i don't like it takes the too big to fail doctrine and amplifies it this new power by the federal government to designate interconnected big firms like citigroup as systemly risk it. it turns them into fannie mae and freddy max. the other concern, it left fannie mae and freddie mac alone. didn't do anything to fix fannie and freddie. makes the big institutions bigger at the expense of smaller business and medium-sized businesses. what i think it does is exacerbates the problems we have, lead to more taxpayer bailout, more moral hazard and gives a new doctrine of crony capitalism. >> you know, paul, i was going to do what i tried to do here, did it to poor eric cantor a couple days ago, we played devil's advocate. >> oh oh. >> push, push, push, you played the bloody flag for me of fannie and freddie, i'm outraged that congress and the white house could talk about reforming our financial sector and yet not try to reform fannie and fred di, two institutions that keep bleeding money. the big banks on wall street have paid back the money with interest. >> that's right. >> but fannie and freddie keep bleeding money. they were there at the beginning. we are in chicago. they were the cow that kicked over the lantern that started the chicago fire. >> yes. >> why was fannie and freddie not touched in this reform package? it seems outrageous to me. >> we have never got an good answer to that we are 400 billion in the red on taxpayer money. the $5.4 trillion in fannie and freddie's debt is our debt earthquake the february debt and sweeping toxic assets into it and not giving us clear accounting on fanny. we have center wills to geithner sawing give us a look at the books so we understand what is going on with relation to taxpayers and we have heard crickets. i think it is a tool of new policy under the management of the treasury department and they are not even touching it. so we have real reasons why we are against this bill, not because we like what happened before. that's why i say these strawmen arguments with so intellectually dishonest and disingenuous. we ought to have a real, honest debate. when the president comes to your area, you hope he comes with aspiration, you hope he is inspiring and not picking partisan fights with other people that poisons the atmosphere and in washington and makes it more partisan, not less partisan. >> we have mark hall prin with msnbc, senior political analyst, "time" magazine here, he has a question. mark? >> congressman, i know you wanted freddie and fannie in there that is a totally reasonable position, the white house says they will take that up eventually. do you think that if this bill passes that it will, on balance, hurt the economy without question, and if so, will it hurt it in the short term in a way that you think will affect the midterm election? >> i think it will end up tightening up credit it will actually restrict credit further and make it more expensive. in wisconsin, you know, businesses get their money from small and medium-sized banks. we don't get it from the big banks. it will get cheaper money to the big banks, more money to the small and medium-sized bank and restrict credit and politicize credit like we had in the run-up to the bubble. i think it will hurt the economy in the short-term in tightening credit. far better twice do this. we propose alternatives to financial services reform, those alternatives were quickly disca discarded. >> go to mika's love interest at 30 rock, donnie deutsch. do you have a question for paul ryan? >> i find it interesting you are going after my man, obama, as far as being too political, coming in and being divisive. i don't know that boehner comment about, you know, the financial reform and going after the ant. a, i thought the financial crisis a little bit more of an ant problem and i thought it was a very just response. i thought the president looked very presidential. i'm not quite sure where the divisiveness comes from you are talking about? >> i think he took his metaphor out of context. >> i thought it was in context. >> the metaphor deciding to say that was huge overreach of government in the wrong direction. i'm looking at all the other things he said in his speech, basically saying your opponents -- what a strawman argument is you set up your opponent as standing for something which he doesn't stand for and then you knock that down. that is what he did on issue after issue after issue, in addition to this ant comment. i think you are right, the metaphor is easily confused, but the fact be remains, the president came as a campaigner, as a partisan, not as a commander in chief with new ideas that we've learned from mistakes of the past on how to get your economy going. look, we have 14% unemployment in the city of racine we have lost three auto factories just in that very area that region. and the stimulus is not working. >> congressman -- >> jobs in wisconsin alone. >> congressman, the stimulus in a lot of ways is working. my question so you without the stimulus and without any aid, we have got the deficit issue and a lot of republicans are saying we should be tightening our belt, go become to my old friend, herbert hoover, aren't we creating possibly more of a disaster? i'm not saying the sometime his was an overall pan nah sey with and cures all but wasn't it a step in the right direction and maybe a band-aid and wouldn't we be in a worse situation without it? >> herbert hoof zert same exact thing, the same kind of stimulus spending, fdr built on top of that he made the same mistakes we are making now. we shouldn't be raising businesses on entrepreneurs and small businesses. another wave of taxes in 2011 and 2013. what you have is more uncertainty in the economy, uncertainty on credit, uncertainty on taxes, uncertainty on regulations. it is this big overhang of uncertainty that is making harder for business to plan for the future, they are sitting on their hands. i met with a business person in racine with 1,000 employees two weeks with ago who is telling me because of the health care bill and the taxes associated with it he thinks he has to shut down his company and lay off 1,000 people. that is in racine there all the taxes, regulation, spending, borrowing, high interest rates, all that uncertain city what is hurting jobs. stimulus didn't do the job what we are doing now is making harder to grow the economy and create jobs. >> paul, you talk about strawmen being set up. the president, while you were debating the stimulus package, set up one strawman after another, saying the republicans don't want to do anything, the republicans don't want to spend a dime, the republicans -- and he kept doing that there wasn't a real debate, so democrats got the stimulus bill that nancy pelosi wanted. it seems to me that they can't go out now and say, oh, but we had to pass this stimulus bill or else the economy would have collapsed because there was no real debate about what type of stimulus bill you passed. one more great example of the -- remember the president saying, republicans don't want to do anything and if you don't pass nancy pelosi's stimulus bill -- >> yeah i do. >> the economy collapse and he says we may never recover but if you pass it well, then unemployment will never rise above 8%. that it's danger of these strawmen arguments. you don't have a real debate. >> that is right. then you are easily disproved. the other thing during that time when he said that, we brought a stimulus bill, alternative to the floor, using the president's chief economist own data would have created twice the amount of jobs at half the cost. we tried engage the president with other ideas. we tried work with him. >> why hasn't this bill worked? i'm sorry to interare result? >> kenzian stimulus doesn't work. we have prove it had over again. borrowing more money, mostly from foreigners, will create a few jobs in the meantime but give us a debt hangover and now courting our own debt crisis like you see in europe. it looks like we are going on a tear, borrowing without limits. coming isn't doing a budget. that puts jitters in the economy and credit markets, gives us more uncertainty, hurting us to create jobs. >> we have got to go really quickly, mark hall prin, kenz kenzieian economics is dead in great britain, look at germany, france, europe, even belgium is america next? >> i hate to say it, but the germans are telling us to cut spending. the europeans are lecturing us that this doesn't work. >> that's what i'm saying. kenzieian economics -- >> we are next in february and march of 2011 when paul ripe goes to the white house and does a grand bargain with the president to reform social security, medicare, medicaid and other spending programs in a huge way that will put our fiscal responsibilities in the future back in line with what kind of receipts we can expect. like forward to t. >> paul ryan -- do you see why paul ryan is one of my gave sflifrnlts yes. >> such a hard worker, 'round-the-clock. >> very hard. >> and swing district, he is in a swing district, democratic candidates win all the time. >> congressman ryan -- >> thank you, paul. >> mark hall prin, thank you as well. >> travel safely home. >> yes, we will. up next, an exclusive first look inside the politico playbook. first, the very latest on hurricane alex. >> you know what this song is? >> yes. >> what is it? >> chicago -- >> somebody said that in your air. >> 1975. >> and a check of the forecast. >> i think that was 1 1/2 back there talk about tropical storm alex, got downgraded. storm made landfall last week with, it was mostly in an unpopulated area we don't expect the damage to be too bad. we do expect the chance of some big waves, though, still affecting the oil area that means the skimmer boats probably won't be out there today collecting the oil and means delays on the beaches, high tides, pushed into the marshes. alex's effects felt today. tomorrow, saturdays will drop four to five feet and they can resume the cleanup. as far as today's forecast what a gorgeous day, just like yesterday for new england, mid-atlantic. the rest of the country looks nice, too, from kansas city and denver toasty. the west coast, waking up with us early, not a bad day at all. finally, tomorrow, a repeat of today. big getaway day for the weekend, things look nice. you are watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. ♪ i heard my mama cry, i heard her pray the night chicago died ♪ ♪ brother, what a knit it really was ♪ ♪ brother what a fight it really was ♪ ♪ glory be ♪ i heard my mama cry ♪ i heard her pray the night chicago died ♪ ♪ brother, what a night room for balls and tees, it doesn't leave room for much else. there's no room left for deadlines or conference calls. not a single pocket to hold the stress of the day, or the to-do list of tomorrow. only 14 clubs pick up the right one and drive it right down the middle of pure michigan. your trip begins at michigan.org. over a thousand people a day are switching to chevy. they like that vehicles like the 2010 malibu, traverse and silverado half-ton have each been named a consumers digest best buy. they like that chevy backs the quality with a one-hundred- thousand mile powertrain warranty. they're not just trading in, they're trading up. qualified lessees now get a low mileage lease on this malibu ls for around one ninety-nine a month. call for details. the switch to chevy starts at chevydealer.com. ♪ north korea, an isolated country ruled by a lunch lady in meineke overalls. well, now, lil kim has presented the u.s. with a bill. >> to market 60th anniversary of the start of the korean war, north korea is demanding a reparation from the united states for what it calls decades of hostility. how much are they asking for? $65 trillion are. >> $65 trillion. man. china's gonna be pissed when we ask to borrow that. >> take a look at the at the morning papers. the "usa today" coalition service members killed in afghanistan top 100 in june. the war's highest monthly total. now comparable to some of the deadliest months fighting in iraq. general petraeus warned that the violence could escalate. >> "washington post," the first time since vietnam, the pentagon has recommended that the white house award the medal of honor to a living soldier. the soldier, whose name is not being revealed, ran through a wall of enemy fire in afghanistan in 2007 to push back taliban fighters. the military says his actions saved at least half a dozen men. >> jacobs may have been one of the last americans to be a recipient of the medal of honor, living recipient. i think we need more that are actually alive to be elevated with all the service that they are giving this country. >> also bring to light the story that is taking place before our eyes if we choose to look at t. >> and the "boston globe," governor deval patrick signed a painful budget yesterday for the spending year. it is going to splash -- it is going to slash funding for services across the state, including public education, dental care for the poor and developmental services for toddlers. patrick said that the pain is wide-spread in difficult economic times. that is not just happening in massachusetts, mika it is happening across america. >> arizona daily star, the state's tourism industry is gearing up for a public relations campaign after months of press and boycotts over its new immigration law. the state is looking to convince people that it's safe to visit arizona, that they won't be kidnapped and won't be forced to show i.d. at the risk of being deported. >> i have got to say also, it's fascinating, so many other states are following arizona and the bill's popular with about 70% of americans. the oregonian, under a pilot program starting today in oregon, customers who install solar energy systems in their homes can receive checks from power companies for energy they generate and use. that's good. >> seattle times, is the secret to survival resting in ozzy osbourne's genes? >> what yo what is resting in ozzy osbourne's genes, but not that. >> he is paying $40,000 to have his dna examined to figure out why he is still alive. government to willie guise, a perfect segue for our political update. >> let's turn to politico's patrick gavin, here with a look at the morning playbook. good to see you again. >> hey, willie. >> let pick up on the conversation we were having a couple hours ago, it was fascinating. talking about the "rolling stone" piece that brought down general mccrystal, written by michael hastings, getting flack from other war correspondents, the most prominent, lara logan, the cbs war correspondent, criticizing his motives, criticizing his approach, suggesting that he should not have published some of the small talk that was going on in the bar. give us both shades of debate. >> i think a lot -- hastings said that he, in fact, abided by all the on-the-record, off-the-record rules. the military's pushed back a little bit, saying the "washington post," in fact, he didn't. essentially what you have is a big debate over access journalism. there are people like lara logan who say, you know, when you are dealing, we all know that it is very easy to be clear about on the record, off the record, but the military is a different beast in the sense these guys are exhausted, out on the front lines, very dangerous areas. her argument, essentially, let's say you do overhear something in a bar and didn't clarify ahead of time that was off the record that perhaps you shouldn't just sort of publish that for the sake of publishing it bus it make for a great story. hastings, a lot of folks backing him saying, look this is one of the more seminal profiles of the afghan war we have seen in a long time and the reason we got it is because he didn't sort of play by these unwritten rules of not upsetting people in the military. i think what is going to be interesting about this, while there was such a seminal piece of journalism on this topic it might be one of the last we will see in a long time there are already reports the military is cutting back on access 'cause they don't want to have another situation like they found with "rolling stone." >> donny, the defense is if matt taibbi wrote a piece for "rolling stone", defending hastings, attacking lara loaning, the goal of journalism is not to get access and be a member of the club it is to get to the story and get to the truth, however you have to do it. >> you talk about this as a seminar piece it has brought the war to the surface, not that it hasn't been here, but in terms of media consciousness. earlier in the show, joe and mika were debating, coming off the most deadly month, is this not in our consciousness from both sides, from a marketing point of view, i hate to be as crass as that hasn't been a clear storyline. the iraqi war we are going in because of the wmds, no, they are not there it is right war, a wrong war, boom. the opposition story is not clear this is not a clear storyline war. >> it was clear in the first months after 9/11, but after that the argument kind of fell apart. donny, thanks. patrick, an interesting conversation, thanks so much. >> thank you. >> read more on politico.com. up next, erin's top three business headlines before the bell. that's next. and...they let me choose where to use them. the loyalty program he signed us up for has all these restrictions, blackout dates, a crazy point system... and we couldn't stay here. so what am i getting for free? 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some of us actually have gone to church. >> some of us love the lord. >> absolutely surprises me you went on a choir tour to lancaster, pennsylvania. >> i guess you don't know joe. you don't know jack, you don't know joe and the lancaster -- >> or john. and jim. >> let's get a check on business before the bell. we are counting down the hits with cnbc's erin burnett. >> there we go. >> live at the new york stock exchange. let's start with number three. erin. >> this is my silver lining, you know, the markets have been so grim and depressed, ready to start the second half of the year, let's start it guys. it kind of looks like a church picture there, doesn't it? >> it does. >> so, here's two bright spots. one out of the second biggest economy in the world and one out of the first, which yes, is still us by a wide margin. start in japan, the survey of big businesses, turned positive for manufacturers, in terms of their sentiment for the first name two years. capital spending is going to be up, not anything to write home about, but still optimism, they think they are going to grow, not slink. >> really (for japan, the past 20 years, nothing cry b and here in the u.s., the survey that monster does, the online job company they go and they troll and they do sort of just a survey of how many jobs are available in online postings and that rose in may, compared to may of a year ago, the biggest increase we have seen in about four years and the strongest signal was in the northwest. only two areas of the 20 job categories they surveyed where there was a decrease in availability. >> erin that is a little bit of good news to get us through the week. seriously, been so much bad news the past two or three months. so that is good enough to move on to -- >> number two. >> what you get is number two. i love this casey kasem thing. >> another silver lining we talked about tesla. companies can't go public when the markets are bad all these companies have been pulling their new offerings this week. marco polo maps, china's building all these roads and finally someone can actually, you know, put maps up of what marco polo did. this company, auto navi holdings, is going to be building the gps systems for chinese cars of which they are now the largest car market and building all these roads. someone has to do that and put those navigation system notice cars. >> that is big business, erin. >> this company is going to offer on the nasdaq this morning. an interesting one. >> that sounds like that is a can't-miss, right? >> i mean, you know, i guess you said who knows in these markets, right? tesla on that date market plunged, up 40%. this company is going to open at $12.50 this morning and see, joe, what happens. >> all right. very exciting you. >> and now --. you know what's exciting, counting down the hits. we counted down all the way, mika -- >> what an idiot. >> number one. >> number one. >> this is in honor of where you are today in chicago, home of where commodities still trade. so america's biggest pork, i throw this out there since you all talk about money and politics and everything in between, as you are an american heartland, time to talk about what we are going to do with our deficit, right, all these issues, we talk about a million things. well, america has the big set of agricultural farm supports in the world. and did you know in chicago, they don't like to talk about this, but we spend every year about $10 billion, american consumer in extra money at the grocery store because of subsidies we pay to america's farmers. 90% of those subsidies go to wheat, corn, cotton and rice. >> wow. >> and did you all know rice, right, we know pictures of rice pad dis, right we don't have a climate in this country conducive to farming rice, but did you know we are the world's fourth biggest producer of rice, thanks to subsidies and produce it in the great state of arizona. >> i did not know that. >> arizona. >> so we are still coming in at number one. >> yeah. still something that i don't understand, paying farmers to not plant crops. >> yes. >> okay. >> pretty amazing. so any way, i know is sort of sacrilegious to say so in chicago, talking about fixing america, you got to tackle those farm subsidies. >> you are exactly right. and stop paying people to not do things. greatly appreciate it, erin. >> have a happy fourth. >> have a happy fourth. we have counted down the top three hits. >> i love it. >> on wall street. i will tell you what, do what i always tell to you do at the end of this. >> what? >> keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars. coming up next, the blurring of ethnic and racial lines in politics. the "new york times," the latest article coming up next. i want the 1972 casey "countdown" music. 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how fascinating that south carolina looks like it is going to have an indian-american governor, a female. obviously, louisiana, long derided as a state that's politically backward by the national media, already has an indian-american governor. both republicans. this is a fascinating cultural shift in this country. >> it s don't forget, joe, a few years after south carolina democrats nominated in the primary a black presidential candidate, which a lot of people thought completely impossible. so, we have this new generation of candidates who are crossing racial and ethnic boundaries we live in a much more tolerant society, which is a mark of tremendous progress but at the same time, i think we put them in a little bit of a box, right, which is if -- we admire their stories, right, we like that they have overcome circumstances, broken barriers, reafirms the american ideal, but we don't really want them to dwell on their differences as we might investigation expected from an earlier candidate. >> you are talking about barack obama, african-american leaders have quietly been concerned for some time, some have said it on the air on our show that they are concerned that barack obama has to worry more about being an african-american who happens to be president of the united states than being a president who is an african-american, a distinction which suggests that he actually can talk less about race than some white candidates. >> i think that's absolutely true. and they have said that to me as well. if you look at, you know, president obama's -- who is this classic example. i mean, he has, before he got into politic, of course, he wrote a whole book about his life story and gave the race speech in philadelphia when i think they felt they had to. it was very much an ethereal exploration of space than a revelation. since he has been president, i think we all would be jolt and talking about it nonstop if he took a moment to even make a joke or anecdote or talk about black culture, its effect on him much the one time he got close to that area, remember, he spoke about henry louis gates and ate rest, a massive news story that overshadowed his entire health care agenda. there is a way we expect these candidates to stay away from the story, yet it is very hard to know politicians, as you know, who don't really continually tell us about their influences and where they are from and how they became who they are. >> you know, donnie deutsch, matt brings up a fascinating point. the first time the president, as president, really talked about race, he got in big political trouble. you can go back to july of last year and actually before the health care town hall meetings, his approval rating dipped after he got that sort of back and forth with police sergeant crowley. it is tough for the president, for nikki haley, for a lot of to candidates to basically go through these treacherous racial waters. >> an example obama can't win either way, he doesn't talk about race, he is kind of not addressing who he is and his heritage. i think the great news, so much negative stuff we hear on this show and in the world, you have children, i think your son is in his late teens or early 20s, in terms of -- we really are the -- the next generation is color blind. such a wonderful thing. one of the great underpinnings, stories of this country now, when you talk to young people and look at barack obama, they don't see a black man, they see a man. and no other side to this story it is wonderful t is great. >> next generation, i think you are exactly right, postracial, a lot of people. tom brokaw once said to me the dividing line, he saw it from about 45 years and younger but matt, we don't have to look to the next generation to see, again, an african-american president. an indian-american female in south carolina who, in fact, her opponent, greenen barrett. >> tried everything. >> tried everything, said avenues good christian man, suggesting that she was a yazed indian sikh. there were the suggestions and south carolina voters, not the next generation, but now said you not going to listen to that. >> well, and i think one of the telling things here is she spent most of her had energy in terms of being defensive on the primary campaign refuting allegations about her sex life. there is no more egalitarian sort of american version of scandal than that, right? i mean, that's -- that sort of signals -- >> that is one way to look at it. one way, matt, to look at t so, you are saying if somebody brings up a sex scandal, a candidate should thank him? egalitarian. >> weird. >> donny deutsch, you care to comment on that one? >> you know what, joe, i expect that from mika, a lout from mika, but et tu, brutus? >> oh, please. >> do we expect more and more groundbreaking moments? i guess the biggest groundbreaking moment when nikki hayly get l haley stops to think twice, hey, she is an indian-american? >> don't forget, bob beby jindal, was already elected in louisiana, deval patrick in massachusetts, african-american. one of the mistakes people made in looking at president obama's victory, see him as the guy that kicked down the door, the trailblazer. i think he is such as much if not more a reflection of his home in what this generation was coming and they are reaching an electorate increasingly less focused on race and ethnicity. and i think they are navigating treacherous waters, but as you said, it's all good, it's all progress. >> all right, matt bai, thank you so much. >> any time, thanks. the big story here in chicago, rob blagojevich, the trial, the fbi tapes and the story that's taking chicago by storm. next. ♪ come on, baby don't you want to go ♪ >> a lot going on here in chicago. a live shot of the windy city for you. it is a beautiful day here. >> is gorgeous. man it is a great city. >> there's a lot going on here. >> there is. wire taps, fbi tapes. guys with big hair. >> big egos. characters. chicago prosecutors. >> there is a tape of blago lifting weights. >> yeah. >> calling mayor daley an f-in' this. we are missing a great story. if this new york. >> let's not miss t here is john yang. >> reporter: in federal court it is rob blagojevich, unplugged. >> i've got this thing, and it's golden. >> reporter: what he had was the power to fill president obama's senate seat. what he wanted was a curby new job. according to testimony, then-senator obama sent word before the election he wanted long-time friend and now senior adviser valerie jar tote get the seat on secret fbi wiretaps in the days after the 2008 election, blagojevich discuss,000 get cabinet post or ambassadorship out of it. bought obama camp wouldn't go along. >> okay, we know he wants her. they're not willing to give me anything except appreciation. >> reporter: talked about appointing himself, just to be difficult. >> i don't want to spite them. >> reporter: blagojevich decided the best go-between with the new president would be the new first lady. >> more henpecked than me. >> reporter: there is no allegation that anyone at the white house did anything wrong. blagojevich says he hasn't committed any crimes and that the fbi tapes are being taken out of context. >> i can't wait to testify to set the record straight and clarify some of these conversations. >> reporter: he will get his chance went defense takes over in the days ahead. john yang, nbc news, chicago. >> we need more. we need more blago. >> we will play more of those tapes. up next, did we learn anything? i don't know. we will find out. also, the daily run down with chuck and savannah. i'd like one of those desserts and some coffee. - sure, cake or pie? - pie. - apple or cherry? - cherry. oil or cream? oil or cream? cream. some use hydrogenated oil. reddi-wip uses real dairy cream. nothing's more real than reddi-wip. reddi-wip uses real dairy cream. discover customers are getting 5% cashback bonus at the pump... and at many of the places their summer plans 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about another schedule. mika will be in lancaster county tomorrow night, home away from home for her, jim and the kids. and she is going to be at lancaster's barnes & noble, red rose commons what did you say that is off of fruitcake turnpike? >> no on fruitville pike. >> all right. hey, willie guise what did you learn today? >> i can't wait. >> i was reminded of the bravery of journalists going where the story is in chicago at the end of the century, innocent man has been framed. you are there to cover it. >> and donny? >> the blagojevich issue is very interesting to me. we see that in our competing network elliott spitzer is getting a show he would not have had that show had had he not gone through the scandal and new media critter we create in this country that the more scandalous, the crazier it is, i want to track where blagojevich goes. he is not disappearing. what does that mean for our culture, a difference between him and the housewives of new jersey, a new media critter? >> guys, let me ask, will we get, we in new york land lebron james? >> no. unfortunately, willie and i were talking about this, chicago, they have got the foundation there the midwest thing, i don't think new york has a story for him -- >> miami. >> two free agents and miami is the closer. >> how depressing that is for new york fans who for the last five years have watched their franchise decimated with the promise of lebron f he doesn't come what do we do? >> there is a 5-10 white former boy guard available to fill up the guard. >> yeah, baby. >> and willie, you know what though, without income tax in florida, lebron gets to keep 10% more of his salary. >> he does. we got some e-mails on that, joe, people saying the property taxes there arerrible. might balance out. >> just not even close. >> donny, love

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