how did this become so -- >> i think in this environment today, you are unlikely to see at least any state where republicans hold any levers of power, a winding back of any of these laws. when you ask voters do they feel more concerned about crimes, about their own personal safety, the answer is yes. after big shootings, after big crises, you see sales of guns go up. so this -- you know, two years ago, we had talks of bipartisan criminal justice reform and these sorts of things, and we're a long ways away from where we were two years ago. >> i'm going to assume in about a month we're going to all hear about gun sales and what happened after this verdict. i have a feeling we all know which way the arrow is going to move. when we come back, covid cases back on the rise. has the government done enough to combat disinformation about mandates and vaccines. that's among the questions i have for transportation secretary pete buttigieg. he joins me next. ugh