but i see this as part of a bigger pattern. and the pattern is this. he betrays the trust of the american people. he puts his private interests, he puts his business interests, his partisan political interests in front of our country. that's what people get. that's whyia see, for instance, the fact that he went out there and rallied for the opponents, republicans in louisiana and kentucky, and the democrats won. we have a new democratic governor in kentucky. and that is because the people said, you know what, he's betrayed us on health care. we haven't been able to get the health care we want. >> do you fear, though, what he could do? how he would interpret a senate acquittal? >> i have no idea what he will do. all i know is that we have an obligation to the country to lead, to have this proceeding be conducted fairly, which i believe it has. it was all in public in the last week, people got to see people like lieutenant colonel vindman who made the american point to his dad, hey, this is a country where you can tell the truth. i think the importance is it's