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Make life better. A much stronger than expected october jobs report. Im the president. This is my team. Weve got to have a president that can lead and hes not able to do so. If its not working, its my job to get it fixed. A good friday afternoon to you, and we begin with the president on the road today, and taking responsibility for his part in the economy, jobs and the rollout of his Signature Health care law. Just a short time ago, he arrived in new orleans, greeted by governor bobby jindal, to push for expanded trade and job creation through infrastructure investment. But when it came time for his prepared remarks, the president unexpectedly shifted into a fullthroated defense of his signature legislative policy, and problems with that wretched website. I promise you, nobody has been more frustrated. I wanted to go in and fix it myself, but i dont write code, so were going to fix the website, because the insurance plans are there. They are good and millions of americans are already finding that theyll gain better coverage for less cost, and its the right thing to do. And that robust emphasis on solutions extends to the controversy over the cancellation of some policies in favor of new ones meeting minimum standards. In an exclusive interview with our own chuck todd, the president addressed the if you like it you can keep it furor. I am sorry that they, you know, are finding themselves in this situation, based on assurances they got from me. Weve got to work hard to make sure that they know we hear them, and that were going to do everything we can to deal with folks who find themselves in a tough position as a consequence of this. And notice, the working hard to deal with it part at the end of that apology. And the president expressed his hope that americans will remember that an overhaul of a deeply broken Health Care System is no cake walk. But then, nothing valuable ever was. When you try to do something big, like make our Health Care System better, that theyre going to be problems along the way. I hope that people will look at the end product, and theyre going to be able to look back and say, know what . We now have protections that we didnt have before. Weve got more choice in competition. I didnt have Health Insurance, i now have it. And speaking of trying something big, how about digging out of the worst recession in a generation . In case you forgot, the president is doing that too. And republicans will be the last to tell you. Hes doing a pretty good job of it. With todays jobs numbers revealing an unexpected surge in job creation in october, 204,000 jobs added, about double economists predictions. Thats three straight years of jobs growth for those keeping track at home. Whats more, thanks to revisions previous months have gone even further, and better than we thought. With an added 60,000 jobs that had gone previously unreported. And the president today had a little footnote about Something Else thats been underreported, particularly in republican circles. Since i took office, we have cut the deficits in half. You wouldnt know this sometimes, listening to folks on tv. But the deficits are going down. Theyre not going up. They have been cut in half. Just cut in half. Thats all. No big deal. I want to bring in democratic congressman john yar mouth of kentucky with us from louisville. Good afternoon, sir. Hello, martin. Did you personally have an inkling that the Health Care Rollout might not be entirely straight forward . Well, not really. We all figured, i think, in congress that things were going to be running smoothly. That people could readily access the website and get the information they needed. Of course, im here in kentucky, where we have done a phenomenal job. And have had Great Success already with about 40,000 people finding health care they never had before. What about the president s promise that those with policies that they liked would be able to keep them . Did you ever have an inkling that might not pan out . Yeah, well, i think early on many of us who were involved in writing the bill thought that he did not express himself clearly enough. That we all knew what he went. And what he meant was that there was nothing in the bill that was going to force an individual to change his or her policy. He didnt say it that way. And because we knew Insurance Companies cancel policies all of the time. They change the terms of them all of the time. They raise the prices on them all of the time. And there was nothing that we could do, and nothing that the bill did that would prohibit them from doing that. So we always knew that the option would not always be with the individual insured. The Insurance Companies had power in that equation, too. But to the extent that the individual had an option to retain a policy, nothing in the bill would have made him or her change. Thats what the president meant. He expressed himself in a way that i think created a much broader perception. And that was unfortunate. Okay. With the great bobby jindal in the audience today, the president called on him and other governors to expand medicaid, as your state has just done. But senator rand paul warned this week, its going to bankrupt rural hospitals. Thats what he says. Whats your response to that . Well, i mean, all of a sudden youre going to have once of thousands of kentuckyions who now have coverage, they can actually go to the hospital so provides will not be bankrupted by providing uncompensateded care as theyre doing now to the tune of about 600 million a year in kentucky. So i think senator paul is way off base. The expansion of medicaid only helps providers, including hospitals. It doesnt hurt them. Congressman john yarmuth of kentucky. Thank you, sir. With me is my msnbc colleague, krystal ball, co host of the cycle. And josh barrow. Krystal, at the end of this week, we have an unexpected surge in jobs numbers. Why exactly then is the president expected to flaj late himself and beat himself to a pulp . You know, i actually appreciate the president s willingness to come out and say i didnt say this exactly right and i understand that people are suffering. I can im hearing the stories, i hear and you im sorry for that. I appreciate this president s willingness to say those words, especially given the fact that the last president wasnt willing to go in that direction. At you will all. And hes also open to lets try to fix the problems that are here, if people are unhappy with the direction that the law is going and if theyre getting worse options under the law than before, lets see if we can fix that. Now, on the flip side of this, republicans are claiming that they knew all along that this was going to be a problem. Right . So i would ask them, instead of voting to repeal the law 40 times or whatever they did 43 times. Why didnt they propose a fix to this glaring problem they have known apparently all along was going to manifest itself. Youll never get an answer to that question. But thank you so much. Josh, ezra kleins piece today is titled obama shouldnt apologize for blowing up the terrible individual market. He writes this, the real sin would have been leaving the individual Insurance Market alone. A market where the people who need insurance most cant get it, and the people who do get insurance find it doesnt cover them when most necessary. Do you agree with that . Broadly i agree with that. And i give the president a much harder time than i think you do about this promise he made. It never made sense to promise people if they have plans they can keep them. We have a massive broken Health Care System. How do you reform a Health Care System that is massively about the same Health Outcome and leaving north of 40 Million People. How do you fix that without leaving the health plans. Josh difficult because republicans were proposing notions of death panels and all kinds of figure meant of the imagination. Therefore, one can understand why were as a policy that applied to 5 of the market, he may have been slightly delicate with the truth. But its more than 5 of the market. Theres also a provision in the Affordable Care act called the cat lack cadillac tax. It is a provision explicitly designed to push employers to change the health plans they offer to their employees. The government wants them to offer health plans less expensive, higher deductibles and copayments. Pay employees more in cash and less in health care. And this is a good policy. Its going to put downward pressure on health care costs. It will give people higher wages, which are something we need at this time. But it is a policy that is explicitly designed to change health plans, which people very often like. These are cadillac, very fancy health plans that the owners of them like. They probably like some money and a Smaller Health plan better. But, you know, i guess the defense of the president on this is well my opponents were lying like crazy, which they were. Yes. And they continue to. And bill clinton, when he tried to reform the Health Care System 20 years ago, the thing that destroyed his plan politically its taken his wife 20 years to recover from that. Right. So i think the temptation for the president had to be very strong to say to people, look, if you like what you have, if you like your doctor, your plan, you can keep it. But it wasnt true. And its going to be true on the doctor part too. For example, in california, the reason the Health Care Premiums are coming in so much lower than people expected is insurers have very tightly restricted the provider network. So your Health Premium will be low. It will be a good deal. But you may not be able to go to your favorite hospital. Youll have to go somewhere different. I think thats a good policy. But its not something that everybody who is shopping in that market is going to like. And can i just say, one of the reasons why youre having a situation where some people are getting cancellation notices and some people are having this rate shock situation, where they arent able to buy the same coverage for the same price they previously were able to is because previously, you could deny sick people from getting insurance. You didnt have to cover them at all. So, of course, its cheaper to cover only Healthy People who are basically not getting sick. That was how the market was built. Right. Of course its cheaper. And so of course there were some people who benefited from that system. And now they are not going to be the quote, unquote, winners in the new system, although they will still have access to good and Affordable Health care. So i mean, one of my problems with this whole debate, and i agree with you, josh. I dont think the president gets a pass on the language. He could have been more precise. He could have been less misleading. But one of the things that frustrates me as were having these anecdotes of this person whose insurance costs have gone up, where is the everyone thee for the people who cant get coverage at all . You said this system . Who are literally dying under the current system, who will benefit from some disruption. Well, here is the empathy. It comes from speaker boehner. Yeah. An apology is certainly in order. But what president s what the americans want to hear is that the president is going to keep his promise. Thats why the house will vote next week to allow anyone with a Health Care Plan they like to keep it. Is he sure he doesnt want to just hold on for another repeal vote, maybe, or not . I dont understand what this means. Like, United Health care has pulled out of the california market. Is the Republican Congress going to make them reenter the california market . Are the republicans now going to dictate to private business what they can do . Yeah, its especially strange, because republican plans to reform the Health Care System, when they occasionally put them forward are generally much more disruptive to the health care market. For example, they would completely equalize the tax treatment of individual Health Insurance and provider provided Health Insurance which would cause employers to stop Offering Health coverage to employees. So i think we do need disruption in the health care markets. Its not unreasonable for a Health Reform plan to cause d disrupti disruption. But if republicans are saying everybody should be able to keep their plan, theyre against any reform. Josh barrow and krystal ball, thank you. Very spirit the opening. Rick perry gallops back into the dusk light. But first, a live picture of air force one which just touched down in miami. Stay with us. [ woman 1 ] why do i cook . To share with family. [ woman 2 ] to carry on traditions. [ woman 3 ] to come together even when were apart. [ male announcer ] in stuffing, mashed potatoes, gravy and more, swanson makes holiday dishes delicious. Tdd 18003452550 life inspires your trading. Gravy and more, tdd 18003452550 where others see fads. Tdd 18003452550. You see opportunities. Tdd 18003452550 at schwab, were here to help tdd 18003452550 turn inspiration into action. Tdd 18003452550 we have intuitive platforms tdd 18003452550 to help you discover whats trending. Tdd 18003452550 and seasoned market experts to help sharpen your instincts. 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And rand paul, if you want that line, its yours. Joining us now is robert costa for National Review and julian epstein, a democratic strategist. Robert, you recently are the great privilege of interviewing the great rand paul about his foot in mouth disease. What was his tone in the interview, robert, and does he actually acknowledge not only his multiple theft of others work, but also the impact this has on his trustworthiness . Well, martin, i met with senator paul at his office on capitol hill, and he was noticeably shaken, i think, by this episode. He knows that he has had such an assent in National Politics since elected in 2010. And this was really his first fumble on the National Stage and something i believe he doesnt think will haunt him in the same way plagiarism charges haunted joe biden in 1987, 1988, but still trying to acknowledge the charges. Whats most interesting, he did fight back, fought back against the press and his relationship with the press, which i think was once warm, seems to have chilled. Heres the problem, robert. Youre suggesting that he was shaken, and yet in his own words, he described the experience as being in detention, which sounded like he didnt really grasp the magnitude of what he had done. I think he is shaken by the attention, he is shaken by this really becoming oh, well, thats a distinction, robert. So what youre really saying is, hes shaken by the public aprobe yum and press criticism but as to the issue of multiple plagiarism, not so much. Thats correct. The way senator paul described to me, he does not believe he committed plagiarism. He thinks there were footnote oversights. He really has umbrage takes umbrage when people call him a plajerrist, he just made some citation errors. Right. Julian, where does the tea party go from here, because supporters including Rush Limbaugh and sean hannity, are very clearly upset at how rough their kooch was created. First of all, a quick note. It is plagiarism, unless you put it in quotes and then make the citation. The absence of a footnote. Correct. Thats not a correction. Thats obviously the right followup. I think, look, the with respect to cuccinelli, the best thing that could have happened to democrats in the Virginia Election was for mcauliffe to win, one. And secondly, for him to win very narrowly. Because that keeps in place this argument that is going on, on the republican side, about this rebranding. This socalled rebranding, which i think is what rebranding . It is the biggest joke. This rebranding is the biggest joke since the rebranding of say new coke or freedom fries. But what has happened in virginia, its kind of a test for the republicans right now who are just arguing that if cuccinelli had had more support, he may have won. And this is from a democrats point of view. This kind of in fighting is very, very good for a couple reasons. One, the argument the principle argument amongst republicans, at least on a policy ground seems if we had just pushed and had more time on the health care debate, we would have won. And that seems to me to be a a grievous mistake that a lot of people in washington are overlooking as they read the polls. The polls on Health Care Show that, in fact, obama is winning the debate on health care. If you look at what kaiser did and you ask people if they like obama care or if they would like to make it stronger, thats about 47 . If you compare that to where republicans are on health care, either going back to the status quo or using republican alternative, thats about 35 . So this in fighting is very good for democrats, because the result is republicans are losing elections. Theyre losing just about every single policy debate, whether it was the shutdown, whether it is the social issues we have discussed on the show for many years. And now theyre doubling down on extremism. If you look at where the republicans said this week on both immigration and employment discriminati discrimination, theyre doubling down on stupid. And yet, robert, Chris Christie was mightily successful, and yet appears to have been chastised by so many people within the republican party. For winning. Yes and no. I think governor christies 60point win in new jersey really makes assert himself on the National Stages. The lone republican Success Story this year, Ken Cuccinellis own advisers told me this week that they believe the shutdown republicans in washington, crippled cuccinellis chances in virginia. And christie now, though he has stylistic problems with the conservatives, they dont like how he embraced the president after superstorm sandy. After the shutdown, after the fiscal cliff, after Ken Cuccinellis loss, he is the republican win in 202013, and hes going to carry that into next year. From your lips, robert. Robert costa and julian epstein, thank you both so much. Still ahead, diffusing a Nuclear Standoff with iran. High stakes talks under way with secretary of state john kerry in geneva. Well have the very latest. Of providing a free worldclass education for anyone, anywhere. If you look at a khan academy video, they cover everything from basic arithmetic to calculus, trigonometry, finance. You can really just get what you need at your own pace. And so, bank of america came and reached out to us and said, we are really interested in making sure that everyone really understands personal finance. Were like, well, were already doing that. And so it was kind of a perfect match. 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Security council have suggested a potential breakthrough in negotiations to curb Irans Nuclear ambitions. For his part, secretary kerry is tempering expectations, emphasizing a deal has yet to be reached, and that important gaps still remain. Any nuclear agreement, of course, would mark a major breakthrough in the decadelong standoff. But is already facing strong opposition from key allies like israel. In an interview with chuck todd, the president downplayed concerns, it may be too favorable to iran. If it turned out during the course of the six months when trying to resolve bigger issues that theyre backing out of the deal, theyre not following through on it, or theyre not willing to go forward and finish the job of giving us assurances theyre not developing a nuclear weapon, we can crank that dial back up. And im delighted to welcome my new colleague on this network, roanan far row, whose own show will debut next year. How did we get to this point . We have the election of rouhani, basically a moderate in june and then a phone call between the two leaders in september and now nbc news reports a senior u. S. Official and irans foreign minister say that a deal could be reached as early as today. I mean, that is fantastically positive news. It is something i view as positive news. There are a lot of naysayers out there, but the bottom line is a negotiated means towards controlling Irans Nuclear development is going to be cheaper and safer for everyone involved. Including israel, and certainly the United States, than issuing a strike, for instance. Ultimately, thats something that congress has to weigh and something that israel has to weigh. If a deal is reached, does this validate the administrations argument that sanctions are working, and that in effect, rouhani, by making this pledge to his own people that hes going to do anything everything he can to lift these sanctions, doesnt that justify the president s approach, hither to . I think it rationalizes both the years of sanctions, which really did create an extraordinarily difficult circumstances for iran, economically. It also validates offering not just sticks but carrots. We have since the election a softening of rhetoric, less designations of violators, leading up to this moment we have now where negotiations may actually be able to yield some fruit. Okay, israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has come out against this agreement. Listen to what he said. Iran got the deal of the century, and the International Community got a bad deal. This is a very bad deal. And israel utterly rejects it. And what im saying is shared by many, many in the regions, whether or not they express it publicly. How does the president of the United States convince mr. Netanyahu and others in congress that hes wrong . Its going to be extraordinarily difficult with both of those constituencies. First of all, israel, particularly in the wake of the syria strikes debacle, doesnt trust the United States to be hawkish enough and intervene in circumstances that necessitate it arise. Secondly, everyone involved knows that the timing lines up in a way that may or may not be convenient for israel making that case, with the progress that kerry hopes to make on israelpalestine talks. The deadline that john kerry set for those talks will come in april or may of next year, around the same time we would be seeing a negotiation settled with iran if these talks do yield fruit. That means that the circumstances that were talking about may all hit the fan at the same time. And what youre hearing with those comments from bb netanyahu is him making a sly acknowledgment of that kerry standing right there, saying if you want progress on the israel talks, you need to make some concessions on iran. A smart man indeed. Thank you so much. Stay with us. The days top lines are coming up as the mayor of toronto is just one politician attempting to atone. Im telling you, no holds barred, brother. He dies. Ill rip his throat out, ill rip his eyes out. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] i dont know what he was saying, but it clearly looks like outtakes from tommy boy. Tell me lies tell me sweet little lies coming up, the atonemen saying sorry indeed is not always easy. Isnt that right, senator paul . I am sorry that they, you know, are finding themselves in this situation. Ive apologized. And im so sorry. And i feel like a thousand pounds have been lifted off my shoulders. I think im being unfairly targeted by a bunch of hacks and haters. Sorry i mean, he picks up the tab every time, which is great. What . Hes using you. He probably has a Citi Thankyou card and gets 2x the points at restaurants. So hes just racking up points with me. Some people. Ugh no, ive got it. The Citi Thankyou preferred card. 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Sorry about that. Lying to congress is a crime. But unfortunately, lying to the American People is not. Im so sorry. We were lied to by our own government in its effort to restrict our liberty. We werent as clear as we needed to be in terms of the changes that were taking place. It was not a mistake. It was a lie. Im sorry i lied to you. I just think its a pr thing. I dont think its sincere. Im sorry, im sorry. Some say proud, arrogant, stubborn man. Its difficult to say youre sorry. I cant do anything else but apologize. [ laughter ] and im so sorry. Have i ever smoked crack . Yes, but that was in the past. There is another rand paul plagiarism revelation in the news. I dont want to be accused of misrepresenting myself. Also raising increase about his memoir. I think we have been sloppy and will be precise in the future. It seems to some like a distant form of apology. Im not perfect. I do make mistakes. Lets get right to our panel now. Msnbc. Com national reporter, erin car moan, and zel evena maxwell, and from the penalty box is republican strategist hogan giddily. Erin, the president apologized for the small percentage of individuals on the private, independent Insurance Market who may end up losing their plans, and they may end up having them cancelled. But do you think the apology will satisfy critics, or fuel them . I dont think it will satisfy critics. These are the same people who have been spreading lies, frankly, intentional lies, about the Affordable Care act, from the death panels onward. I mean, the president hopes, i assume, that it will go away if he just says, i sort of apologize, using the passive voice. But this is not about the truth of the flux that the people on individual plans are experiencing. This is not about concern for them. If republicans were really concerned about people losing their Health Insurance, they should be demanding apologies from the 11. 4 Million People who are not getting Insurance Coverage under medicaid. Because republican governors have refused to expand it. Theyre the ones who should be answering for that. Wow, okay. Hogan, now that the president has apologized for misspeaking and given his promise that the website problems will be resolved by the end of this month, where do republicans go next in their endless strategy of opposition to the Affordable Care act . Well are were still waiting for results of things he said hes going to do. No mention of bringing sebelius in, and talking some of the strategy of what theyre going to do to actually fix this thing. He continued to kind of rattle on and rail on some politics excuse me, some talking points that are tired and, quite frankly, he misled the people. Everybody knows that. I mean, he quite frankly lied to the American People, and one of the things i found so fascinating the im sorry was im sorry you find yourself in that situation. The im sorry is great. How does that help someone who lost their plan . What are you going to do . Are you going to keep that promise or go back and allow them to keep their plan . Those are the questions we should be asking. Because once this apology gets through, pseudo apology, ill say, once the website gets fixed, whats going to happen to all of these people . The small percentage you just talked about, martin, that are losing their plan, could you imagine if republicans said, hey, its only 5 of the people, dont worry about it. Thats a big number. Thats millions of people that he lied to, that are facing a broken promise and now dont have health care, because of it. Zel evena. I think the apology is the difference between the president and the gop. The gop shut down the government, we nearly defaulted on the debt ceiling for a second time, and then theres no apology. So obviously he streamlined his talking points during the runup to the passes of the bill while republicans were talking about death pams. I think the president is owning up and doing his job as president of the United States and republicans who dont govern the country, thats the difference between the president. The people who have temporarily lost their insurance are going to be eligible for better plans, eligible in many cases for subsidies. There may be a number of people who are going to end up paying more. But theyre paying more up front, as opposed to finding out when something bad happens to them. And hogan, isnt that true that weve heard Michele Bachmann say that children, the elderly and mothers are literally going to die when the Affordable Care act became law, and that doesnt appear to have happened yet. You goet the point, the lying ak deceit has been flowing from the rivers of republicanism. Its flowing on both sides. Look well, i dont think thats entirely fair. Broken promises, thats just part of campaigning. And thats a sad part of campaigning and one of the reasons so many people are turned off. I understand that the president is now trying to nuance, you know, if the insurance hasnt changed since the plan was passed. Well, if has become the new is. Because hes trying to nuance something he was very clear about. He ended the sentence with period, it wont change one bit. There is no equivocation there. It is factually true the president made those comments, and he continues to make that make that claim. And now this apology is quite frankly embarrassing. You dont get a medal for doing your job. You messed up, come out and say i messed up, now were going to fix it. Tell me how youre going to fix it. Thats would we really missed, i think, from the chuck todd interview. There was no fix. Erin, this week, rand paul has been exposed as a plagiarizer par excellence. Multiple every single day, its wonderful, isnt it . And wouldbe dualer, from i understand. What did you think of rand pauls response, where he suggested he had that the punishment, as it were, was like being in detention . Rand paul is acting like the spoiled and petulant child he sometimes resembled. When you mess up, when perhaps your staff copypasted from other sources, including apparently in one of his books, what you have to say is, im accountable, im sorry, and then you move on. Part of what has made this a story is, one, there have been a lot of new revelations piling on. Hes a man who has tried to style himself as an intellectual leader. But also his anger and his pitch lance. This is somebody who wants to be leader of the party but he cant even be accountable to what happened here. Hogan, given the standard you just set the president , how do you think rand paul has performed . Not well. I think im going to agree with the three of you in that room. The fact remains, one of the biggest problems is rand paul a fraudster . He used the word haters, which is my biggest problem. Thats just weird, anyway. Shouldnt be allowed to. But come out and admit your mistakes, say youre sorry. Make the adjustments on the staff. He plagiarized some things. Fine. Come out and say im sorry and move on to Something Else. Him continuing to blame other people and call them haters, thats whats making this continue to go on for much longer than it should. Selena, your response to that, and rand pauls performance. I think, you know, wikipedia, thats the high school thats the High School Way to plagiarize. So i think thats interesting. But also, he wants to be someone running for president , and this goes to his competence and his honesty. And if he cant come out and say, you know, i didnt have the proper oversight of my staff while they were coping and pasting things into my multiple speeches and books hes not ready to be president. Going to have to answer for that. Lets hope so. Thank you all so much on this friday afternoon. Thank you. Come up as we approach veterans day, well pause to sa lewd americas bravest and help answer the challenges all too many face back home. Stay with us. Too many face back. Stay with us. You have time to shop for Car Insurance today . Yeah. I heard about progressives name your price tool . I guess you can tell them how much you want to pay and it gives you a range of options to choose from. Huh . Im looking at it right now. Oh, yeah . Yeah. Whats the. Guest room situation . The name your price tool, making the world a little more progressive. Where their electricity comes from. They flip the switch and the light comes on. Its our job to make sure that it does. 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Its the first of 12 documentaries and details the struggles our veterans must overcome to reintegrate into society. Sundays film will be accompanied by a onehour discussion about veterans issues, live from the september 11th memorial in lower manhattan. And were delighted to welcome the host of that special, Patrick Murphy, a veteran of the second iraq war, a former member of congress, and an msnbc contributor. Patrick, its great to have you. Tell us in general terms about this special, its purpose, and the event on sunday. Well, martin, thanks for having me on. And to all the veterans out there, happy Veterans Day Weekend. Absolutely. 9 11 changed lives for so many. But especially to 2. 5 million americans who soon went to afghanistan and iraq. And so thats why its fitting this Veterans Day Weekend were actually hosting this at ground zero to talk about what that brought upon less than 1 of americans who have gone overseas for all of us. And changed their lives dramatically. Okay. Now, we were talking earlier on the broadcast about jobs numbers. There was the announcement today, and things are looking better. And while the overall Unemployment Rate for veterans is below that of the national number, for the youngest veterans, its still about one in five who are unemployed. What is the biggest hurdle for a young veteran returning from theater of war, looking for work . Part of it is that we train these Young Americans up to make them the best they can be, and we spend months to do that. And then we have a Transition Program that before when i got out ten years ago, martin, there was no Transition Program. But now at least its three days. But really, we have to start planning it ahead of time, saying if youre going to leave a year from now, where are the opportunities, what industry do you need to get into. So reallyit ate collaboration. Most folks dont know its not the v. A. That runs that or even the department of defense. The department of labor has the responsibility to make sure these heroes have employment when they get out. Yeah. Republicans often talk about the military in hallowed and perfect terms. But the food stamp program, known as s. N. A. P. Has had 5 billion cut from its budget. Estimates are that it will cut the cut will affect close to 1 million veterans. What goes through your mind as a veteran when a 17 to 20 trillion economy cant sustain food support to people who have served this country, and sacrificed themselves to the nth degree . Martin, ten years ago i was in baghdad with the 82nd division. My gunman was a private first class from texas. He made 16,000 a year. My other guy was also a private first class. He made a little more because he had a wife, 18,000 a year but a wife and two kids at home. To think were cutting these Young Americans through food stamps, eligible through food stamps, cutting military benefits is just disgraceful. It makes me angry at the government that we dont take care of the folks who have given so much for all of us. At a time, martin, when we have plenty money, we have hundreds of billions of dollars, for Missile Systems we dont need on the east coast, to build new ones from scratch and other things. But when it comes to our heroes, not going to take care of them, thats wrong. Hear hear. Patrick murphy, thank you so much. And, of course, you, our viewers, can watch the premier of wounded the battle back home followed by a discussion of the issues affecting veterans, hosted by Patrick Murphy that sunday, right here on msnbc. Thanks again. And well be right back in a moment. [ male announcer ] a body at rest tends to stay at rest. While a body in motion tends to stay in motion. Staying active can ease arthritis symptoms. But if you have arthritis, this can be difficult. Prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain and improve daily physical function so moving is easier. 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You know, when Trayvon Martin was first shot, i said that this could have been my son. Another way of saying that is, Trayvon Martin could have been me. 35 years ago. That was a mournful president in july, following the news that George Zimmerman had been acquitted after shooting Trayvon Martin to death in florida. And heres how the dignified, if distraught parents of that unarmed young man responded to the president s comments. What touches people is that our son, trayvon benjamin martin, could have been their son. This is a beautiful tribute to our son. And so as the father of two girls, i would like to introduce you to a young woman who could have been my daughter. This morning, at a christian congregation in detroit, 19yearold ranicia mcbride was laid to rest. A promising life cut brutally short in circumstances that have become quintessentially american. This young woman, barely beyond adolescence, had been involved in a road Traffic Accident in dearborn heights, michigan, early on saturday morning. According to members of her family, she had sought help from a nearby house, because her cell phone had been drained of power. It was around 3 30 in the morning, and she was unarmed. What happened next is now the subject of an investigation. But according to police sources, ranicia mcbride did not damage the property, nor do any damage to the homeowner. But for her troubles, she was shot in the face. And if that wasnt senseless enough, the homeowner is alleged to have said that his gun discharged accidentally. Theres been a perfectly understandable demand for a thorough investigation, with protests on wednesday night outside of the shooters home. And its worth saying that like florida, michigan has its own version of a stand your ground law, which allows individuals to use deadly force if they feel threatened. And in the darkness of night, and with a stranger at the door, its not difficult to imagine how one might feel, one might feel anxious. But its also not difficult to understand why so many people are wondering if ranicia mcbride had been subjected to a dehumanizing form of racial profiling that denied her humanity in preference to assuming criminality. Its why many have concluded that walking while black or shopping while black or just being a stranger and being black is enough to bring your life to an end. And so, in a nation that wont do anything to stem the use of lethal