bolton and will it make them testify. and what i found interesting about this is that it led me to believe that john bolton doesn't really want to talk because this judge's ruling if he wanted to talk, he's been waiting for a judge to rule about whether he should, could have been potentially used as a door opening saying, well, this is in precedent here, the judge even talks about bolton in the ruling, but his lawyer is saying that this does not apply to him and that he had a different role in the white house. and it leads me to believe that bolton will not be looking for a reason to speak in front of congress. >> mimi, there was a win for the president yesterday being specifically the supreme court temporarily blocked the disclosure of his financial records. we'll wait until december 5. how do you think this will play out? >> well, i mean it is not surprising that they issued a stay. i mean, if they knew exactly that they were going to, you