wheandwhen defense does emerged. >> mr. kent, you worked in 27 years of rules of law, is that correct? >> yes. since 2012. >> reporter: like most of us up here, i don't have a good sense of what a real anticorruption effort that we must engage in all over the world all the time. >> what does it look like in. >> let me take a minute to carrica characterize for us. >> you need institution with integrity. >> that starts with investigators and goes to prosecutors and go tos court. country like crane we start with law enforcement and that's what we did in 2014 or 2015 with new