while not necessarily part of his official dutieduties, it is certainly not outlandish for him to be interested or engaged or pursuant to secretary pompeo. >> it is unusual for the ambassador of the eu play a role in ukraine policy. >> it may be deregular but it is not certainly outlandish. >> secretary perry is the third member of the irregular channel. certainly a senate confirmed official and somebody with deep experience and energy and he was pursuing the flanatural gas prot in ukraine? >> perry's involvement is perfectly acceptable? >> it is. >> this irregular channel has it