right now based on what we know reported. going on? yes. did they build enough of a wall around themselves that they can put their head in the sand and play dumb? probably. and, you know, it may be that the democrats have to just give that kind of evidence up in the interest of going forward on impeachment on the president. >> all right, mimi roca, leann caldwell. joining me now on set is new york democratic congressman and member of the foreign affairs and financial services gregory meeks. i jokingly said there's not much to talk about. at least there is this hour. let me first get your thoughts on where the impeachment inquiry stands today. you've been at some of those depositions. do you want to share with us your assessment of where this thing is going right now? >> well, i think we're moving, we're doing our work in a methodical way, trying to get all of the facts and, you know,