that are trying to stand up to the rub shans, it is really uncharted territory. is this okay? that is a question for the secretary of state and others. >> we're a nation of institutions and laws, but if not abiding by those laws results in no consequences, and in warping those institutions has people frowning upon you, what would stand in the way from someone in the president's position to do what he potentially has done. >> nothing, that is why this is such a serious issue. there is so much out there. i just think that is the core issue. is it okay for a president to ask for favors from a foreign capital to get advantage in a upcoming election. i think anyone looking for office should be able to say that is not okay. but eventually secretary of state pompeo, he know that's is