healthyfully skeptical or cynical, you would note that there is a multi-100-page report that was months in the making and there were many an anticipatory speech about it, has finally arrived and a bunch of people don't want to talk about it at all. they want to talk about the next one. >> it's always the next one. >> so, there's that. that's a bit of a tell. number two, while i think our expert panelists have done a really great job teaching everyone here important distinctions between these type of probes, there's only one auditor the doj under federal law. that's the inspector watchdog. that's the hearing we're going to hear today. >> ironically, john durham's work will be subject to oversight by whom -- >> exactly. >> michael horowitz, right? right, maya? >> take james comey, who has been criticized in all sorts of ways. it was a watchdog report that laid out comey made errors -- >> by horowitz. >> -- they were not crimes, by horowitz on this, right? so when other people come out, whether it's barr, who like