watch over the year. does trump's approval rating sort of go along with their feeling about their personal finances? and we won't know obviously until election day. the other point on your question about the business vote. i had a meeting yesterday with a very senior banker here in new york, and i asked him that very question. i said, look, is trump good for banking? he said, look, if i was to vote on is my personal bank, the bank i run, is it better off under trump, i've got to say yes. deregulation has been great. but the trade war, everything else he does for the economy, that is making me nervous. so it's very interesting that, as you say, the coasts, sort of the wall street types who have traditionally been seen as traditional republicans, are very, very nervous the way trump is pursuing his trade policies. and even here we see the average voter, if you ask them, what is the biggest cloud hanging over the american economy, they say the trade war. >> but do wall street types, jim, to you, does the business community at the end of the day matter that much in the election? not too many big business guys are wall streeters rocking up in swing states. >> we've got 32 million small business leaders across the country, and they're asking some very simple questions.