>> why do you think the president doesn't understand? the president could very well understand. >> i don't think he cares to understand. >> those are two different things. >> and stephanie, i'll add this. he keeps talking about the economic, he'll level economic sanctions against turkey. that's not the point. he thinks of everything in terms of dollars and cents. when you're the president you're the morel leader. he lacks the moral authority to lead. >> talk about the economic sanctions, because lindsay graham who is criticizing the president last week, just yesterday saying we're going to get them with these sanctions against turkey. >> who cares? this is a commander in chief test and he is failing. the idea that he can stop the turks frs achieving their long-held goal of abolishing the kurds as a military force through economic sanctions is ludicrous. we have very little direct trade with turkey. this is not a situation where economics is the answer. this is a place with we have abandonnd an ally that has fought with us for years. >> and we've releases isis from