atmosphere than once. i do remember that from the meeting. i had no evidence or indication that they were up to any wrong doing. they did not talk about ukraine or any of these election scandals but they stood out a little. >> why do they have access to you? >> they came in and said these are business people, it was some work i had been doing at the time, the tax code to treat cannabis companies fairly. so they came in to talk about that and their good relationships with the white house. >> so many of us remain confused with rudy giuliani's floel all of this, mike pompeo was asked about giuliani's role, and here is what he said. >> as secretary of state we have lots of people out advocating and doing work. not all of which work for the department of state directly