deputy labor secretary. clint watts, and elise jordan who worked in the state house. people are going to say this is purely political. this is all about the deep state out to get the president, in your mind, what kind of information, what kind of conversation, would have been had that would prompt this kind of whistle blowing? >> i can't imagine anything that wasn't bad. we have seen how the fallout from it is. i can't believe that an intelligence official, it has to be someone at a very high level, they have to have been concerned to such a level to want to bring this complaint, and i'm sure they knew this was would create an extraordinary ripple effect in government. i think what is also essential