health care and the government is going to take care of you, that is a big deal changer and that is, or a game changer, and that is something i think would be associated more with the left, with labor on the socialist side. i think that's the type of comparison you can make, with some of these progressive ideas. >> so charlie, joe biden, he was watching the election, which his team probably was. joe biden is saying, that looks good for me. >> that's right. to the extent his argument, you need a centrist, someone who's not going to scare voter as too left wing, he can say argue by analogy that corbyn is bernie sanders or corbyn is elizabeth warren, so stick with me. i don't know that's necessarily persuasive to everyone in the democratic party right now, but it's certainly an argument that his team wants to emphasize in the coming days. >> so we had the story of