there several hours now. have we seen any lawmakers come out of there or anybody saying anything about what's happening behind closed doors? >> reporter: philip reeker has started his fifth hour of testimony behind closed doors. there is about eight lawmakers we've seen go in there. most of them democrats. we've seen one republican representative, mark meadows but caught up with one lawmaker, chair of the foreign affairs committee, congressman engle. here's what he had to say. >> i think it's interesting that i've known him a number of years. i think he's being honest -- telling us what he's observed. i think it's going to go on for a much longer time. we're just scratching the surface. there's a lot more to ask of him. >> very generally is he