sbel where she knows committee report we're just all of us going through it as fast as we can. the intelligence committee held back a lot of what it had from those hearings as it was trying to go through the witnesses and trying to get information from them, but also holding back some of what it had. giuliani is all over the place here and obviously at the center. what we heard from those witnesses in the intelligence committee hearings was that if the wanted them to work through rudy giuliani. and here according to this report was running the whole operation. the other thing that's important to remember, is that mulvaney is also current ly the director of the office of management and budget. >> really good point. >> he's not running that office at the moment, but everybody in the political office over there was at the time mick mulvaney's