records. why do i say that from the white house per spspective? here's a question we can answer today that we couldn't have any day before today, that is how early did rudy giuliani's contact with the budget office begin? in august when they were cutting this crooked looking deal? no. and someone just flag ged in th footnotes, april 24th. omb calls recipient, rudy giuliani. why is that important? because that shows this has happened to an organized degree that people inside the budget office, the money office, are that's call rer, are calling rudy giuliani. we alsz know people resigned. people were so corned ant this quote unquote irregular action that all sorts of whistles were blown but you go back to april