we in house have a institutional responsibility. the political calculations i think were thrown out the window once the transcript of that call from president trump to president trump zelensky was released. so we have to proceed to do our constitutional duty and let's hope that the senate and all the members there if the house acts, will do theirs. >> congressman welch, thank you for joining us. back to ari. you found something in the documents. >> one of the big questions here has been okay, are we going to get a readout of everything we watched in those hearings and prosecutors do that, too, a summary, or new information. i can tell you, we have new information. the kind of stuff that would be breaking news, blockbuster front page stories if it were a story. it's just coming from the government itself. according to the spell jensen committee's report, i'm holding newly released logs of rudy giuliani in august with the white house and zbres interestingly with the office of management and budget. what is rudy giuliani, the personal attorney for the