you -- >> is there a question for dr. hill? >> mr. holmes, in your testimony you said that sondland said hole he'll do anything you want. that information had nothing what to do with these hearings and it was anecdotal and extraneous and your interests are protecting ukraine are very dubious when you embarrass president zelensky by making those statements. who cares that ambassador sondland said that. you didn't embarrass ambassador sondland you, embarrassed zelensky. >> thank you, chairman. thank you, both, for your service. dr. hill, i would like to talk a little bit more in depth about chief of staff mick mulvaney