and frisk policy. >> you can put the numbers up. >> yes, even in white areas black and brown were disproportion natalie tdisro disproporti disproportionately stopped. we couldn't get him to move on this. and though we would talk with him on other issues, he and president obama and i met on education reform, he wouldn't budge here. so there was no one more surprised than i was when he made the statement yesterday. and when he called me right after the statement. i said to him, it is going to take more than would be speech to get forgiveness, but i think it is an important statement he made because there are other cities that followed the model of new york on stop and frisk and now i hope that they go in and say even the face of it michael bloomberg is saying this is wrong and bigoted. and those policies need to be stopped all over this country.