parallel and separately here in the united states and those two things have over time started to fuse together. >> well, back in may of this year, do you recall that president trump had a phone conversation inha early may wit president putin? >> i do. >> and that he also then met in mid-may with prime minister orban who joined president putin at this pressed conference? >>es that's correct. >> now that happened in between the time when president zelensky was elected on april 21st and his inauguration on may 20th, is thatma right? >> correct. >> and in fact, president -- suspect it true that president trump had asked vice president pence to attend the inauguration after his phone call with president zelensky on april 21st? >> i'm not sure that i can say that president trump asked the vice president pence. i was not in any meeting in