just spoke or 20 minutes later, rather, i can brief you if you and gordon don't connect. speaking to ambassador volker. then ambassador taylor an hour later says the nightmare is they give the interview and don't get the security assistance. the russians love it and i quit. you would agree that in this text message, after you had spoken earlier an hour earlier with ambassador taylor that he is linking the security assistance to this interview,public announcement by zelenskiy. >> that's correct. >> and ambassador taylor said you had a conversation at that point and he did -- and that you told him that just as your text message indicates you did have a conversation with president trump prior to that text message. does that help to refresh your recollection that you in fact spoke to president trump at that time? >> again, i don't recall president trump ever talking to me about any security