from a politics standpoint and how people's quality of life, particularly in places like ohio have orgably gone backwards and people are working two and three jobs, forget about trying to make ends meet. they're trying to to put two ends together hoping they meet. when you think about farmers and health care and all of the things that contain the matter, i think if we stay focused we will not fall into the trap of repeating what happened in twik2016. i think that's what biden has to do. >> you've got be joe biden on stage next to elizabeth warren who polls show has had a real surge since the last one. how do you think her status as the new front-runner might affect her? >> i'm curious to do so how much the impeachment debate may slow her rise. the impeachment debate really has the threat to her to sort of block out whatever momentum she had. i certainly think she needs to be prepared that they're coming after her. ultimately this is joe biden's debate and this is going to be a question about how much he can go toe-to-toe with the president