concerns to go to president trump apparently ambassador taylor had access to secretary pompeo. he did not have access to president trump so i made the phone call. i said what do you want? president trump responded with what i put in the text. and then i strongly encouraged ambassador taylor to take it up with the secretary and he responded i agree. when i said that. as far as the other part of your question relating to whether or not the prosecutor could make the statement or zelenskiy could make the statement, i don't recall who told me whether it was volker, whether it was giuliani or whether it was president trump it's got to be zelenskiy. it can't be the prosecutor. but that's what i relayed. whoever i got that information from i relayed that to i believe mr. -- ambassador taylor and to mr. morrison. >> but as of september 9th you understood did you not that president trump either himself or through his agents required