to attend the inauguration of the ukrainian president was just something that happened because the secret service hadn't done their job. she pushed back firmly saying she didn't know what the president's thinking was, but it was clear. >> we haven't said enough about ms. williams. she's here, she is also a firsthand witness to the call between donald trump and president zelensky. she says that while she listened to the call and she spoke about her concerns with her superior mr. kellogg, she did not have a conversation with the vice president. that's her testimony, right? >> right, and she put the record of the call in his briefing book. she put the transcript, the summary transcript there, too. she just doesn't know whether the vice president read them orbor not, but i think that's something we'll hear more about, right? typically if you're preparing a briefing book for your principal, the expectation is they'll know what's in there.