that's a big worry. >> how immediate do you see the threat posed by these isis fighters and supporters? >> northeastern syria is a place with a crime syndicate. it's a pretty big problem. if cops go away, then they start to come back. it may not be the next day, but they start to take liberties, return to their old stomping grounds, taking over villages, doing things to put them back in control. we see bits of this already. attacks are up. attacks against prisons particularly but also against village chiefs, assassinations, the kinds of things isis does very well. that's happening already. isis is also getting a big propaganda victory out of this, they're putting out the word we've lost the caliphate but we're back in business. recruits, give us money and support because we're on the rise again. >> carol, you've got new reporting that the pentagon has started drawing up plans for an abrupt withdrawal of u.s. troops from afghanistan just in case the president decides he wants