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are right now is this president his poll numbers are really independent of the economy. this has pin true ever since he was elected. the normal political rules of gravity don't apply to him. now, of course, in an expanding economy, it is very different once the economy starts shrinking if, indeed, it does. it will be interesting to see whether or not president trump's core base of supporters hang on and whether or not they say, all right, we've given him enough of a shot. the tariffs have been hurting us and now this is just too much. i think they have shown an unusual, unique willingness to withstand economic pain to vote against really their own interests in a lot of ways because they like the idea of what president trump represents to them. i think it's a much different case if the economy starts to contract. >> susan, this morning the

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