willingness to come here today. with that, i yield back, mr. chairman. >> thank you, congressman. mr. jordan. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i ask unanimous consent to enter into record a statement from chief of staff mick mulvaney. >> without objection. we haven't seen all the statements but presume they are accurate and no objection. >> thank you. ambassador, president trump's not a big fan of foreign aid, is that right? >> i don't know if that's a fair characterization. i think he's careful. >> express concerns about foreign aid going to certain countries. fair enough. and he knew ukraine was corrupt, is that right? >> he believed ukraine was corrupt. >> yeah and he wanted europe to do more? >> definitely. >> definitely wanted europe to do more. and the president had a belief that ukrainian government officials, some senior ukrainian government officials, supported his opponent in 2016. won't go into all the details but i think of the one member of parliament who said the majority of ukrainian politicians want hilary clinton to win so he had that belief as well. and obviously, he understood