zero due process, and zero that the president was pursuing his own personal interests in transparency. does anybody think this is fair? his dealings with ukraine. even though there was no quid pro quo, i'm sure they would and if you take a look at like to try. worse than the dems. republicans, you see 72% say he the thing here is the first sentence and the last sentence, right? the never trumpers and the worse than the dems. so donald trump is now painting was pursuing the national interest. but 17% say he was pursuing his a -- a -- a new enemy and, that is, republicans who are not own personal interest. >> versus 94 and 2 democrats. trump supporters. >> right. they may be conservatives but so virtually, all democrats they're not conservative enough think he was. but there is a split amongst for him, right? and this is, again, a line we republicans. have seen from the president >> there is a split and, you that harkens back to the mueller know, we have another 11% who investigation, ali, when he say they don't know among would pick out people involved in that special counsel republicans. so this is one of those questions where we are not investigation who were seeing that rock solid number of republicans who were conservative but just not in the president's view loyal enough or republican support behind a question. conservative enough to be able >> independents are a little more certain about this. to defend him the way that he independents do believe by a wanted to be defended. and if you look at that tweet, plurality that the president was working in his own interest. there's some interesting pieces in there. >> yes. and among independents, 64% when he says even though there is no quid pro quo, i'm sure they would like to try. saying that the president was comes down to frankly semantics. pursuing his own personal the president insists no quid interest. >> mary, always good to see you. thank you, my friend. pro quo. his allies insist no quid pro >> thanks for having me. >> all right. quo. what is being laid out in these coming up. a disturbing look inside the documents and in these depositions that we have reported on that we have seen world of conspiracy theorists