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back and not make a lot of rulings but just kind of defer to the agreement that the senate makes. but if as hillary suggested if you don't have an agreement between the majority and the minority then the first question becomes, does the chief justice want to play the role of like more of a judge, right? where people are making motions and he's ruling on them. or does he want to force the senate to make its own decisions? which case he can just refer stuff to them. second question, and this is the other one, is does mitch mcconnell have the votes to overrule him to the extent that rob rob roberts makes rulings that they don't like? i think those questions are very much up in the air and won't know what a senate trial looks like until we get a window into the answers to them. >> so then, hillary, if you are watching the trial, the two main

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