people vote on convention at the end to hold together a coalition of 51 for purposes of evidence. >> ah. that's the key, right, hillary, is that coalition? who will be the better minds, if you will, on the right that may not agree with the president and what he wants to see in this senate trial? and therefore, the discussion between mcconnell and schumer, minority and majority leaders, becomes more important here. >> no, that's absolutely right. what's interesting is in the clinton trial we had an agreement, a coming together of the senate minority and majority leader in the beginning and set down the groundwork to fill in the details gnat senate rules don't fill in and because we don't have that agreement in sight and don't know if it will happen in today's political climate it depends on whether the democrats get four republicans ultimately to join their side in trying to pass different motions to bring in new witnesses and potentially