the subpoenas that are going to go throughout the course of the sdny investigation we will get more access into giuliani's financials. but the absence of an executed engagement agreement in and of itself does not mean that giuliani is off the hook. the real question, alison, is the following. was rudy giuliani selling access to the united states government -- more specifically president trump -- in exchange for being hired by the ukrainian government? because we know that rudy giuliani says he was working for free for donald trump. well, we all know a lot of people would never work for free for donald trump, and then in the end was the money given to rudy giuliani? we know victoria tensing, one of the pairs of lawyers with her husband joe digenova , they work for donald trump, they represent donald trump. shee she herself signed an engagement agreement with viktor shokin. i think we will find out more and more whether or not rudy giuliani is telling the truth