state. it is becoming less strong 20 to 30 years ago. in wisconsin, a lot of college towns. madis madison, the city of milwaukee. the different economies in both states. >> interesting stuff. fred yang, one quick question for you here. you know what, i just realized i'm out of town and not going to be able to ask you this. fred, thank you so much. >> thank you very much. ahead on "up" with david gura, the woman who gave president trump the finger about her big political victory. liticr your home at a great price, the way it works best for you, i'll take that. wait honey, no. when you want it. you get a delivery experience you can always count on.