quite often, they'll be criminally investigated by the organization. they are black balled in their chosen line of work and never work again. these are major, major consequences. someone in the agency calling out the commander in chief and accusing him of serious wrongdoing is really putting their career and lives on the line. if we're to listen to trump's references to spies and rubbing them out. >> what can we learn from the past whistle-blowers who have come forward, chelsea manning, edward snowden, daniel elseberg. >> the fundamental power is, the uplifting moment when you look at this sort of situation is that an individual with good facts and courage and real backbone can come forward and tell the world about wrongdoing and face and sometimes prevail against a multinational