the chief justice of the united states supreme court would preside over it and it would be a trial with evidence presented and it doesn't have to be limited to just the facts surrounding the calls to the ukraine and the pressure put on ukraine in that quid pro quo that's been announced. he indicated it doesn't require crime t. can just be a violation of the public trust. and in doing so frankly the house can look into other acts and incidents that were committed by donald trump in furtherance of the violation of the public trust. >> as we look at the defense so far, deep state partisan, as well, just playing devil's advocate here, let's say that those are true. would that weaken the case as the house moves forward against donald trump? >> i think part of those defenses are something you commonly hear in criminal cases by the accused. often times you will hear about