the individual making the promise doesn't actually have to be the two -- doesn't have to be the two parties that receive something for something else. if for example, you give a country aid and then a relative or friend happens to get a bag of money, that would fit within quit pro quo. that's right. quid pro quo is so broadly defined as most criminal defendants are dismayed to find out that virtually any kind of benefit in exchange for another benefit, however tangential ally related, is going to satisfy the definition. also made a point of the severity of how damaging to national security. >> let's not forget one of the key people who knows exactly what happened in that conversation. that's the president of ukraine. at any time now the president of ukraine, because he now owns our president, can come out and give us the dirt, the details, "the