get back to the table. this is disrupting the world economy, the world order, and we have to stop. i would go back to a year ago and say, let's start anew. we have problems, let's talk about them. it is the only way it has ever been done. >> do you feel as if the president actually is going to go through with many of these tariffs? he has blinked before. >> right. we have a brain -- presidency. that's what we have. the odds are he will have another one of those brain disruptions tomorrow or the next day and he will change course, he does it constantly. that's one of the problems we have with this president, is that he keeps everybody so off balance that nobody has any -- of markets, of business tike wills, of policy. he's just -- you never know what to do. in negotiations with congress over background checks for instance for the purpose of